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It might already be too late to fix this mess

Created by: STLBlues17
Team: 2018-19 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2018
Published: Nov. 18, 2018
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Besides two great wins against Toronto and Calgary, the Blues have no other impressive wins. They’ve beat the awful Golden Knights twice, the awful Blackhawks once, a lucky win against mediocre Carolina, and a win against the Sharks when they were exhausted. Watching this team makes me want to drink bleach.
Trades
1.
STL
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Perron, David
2.
STL
  1. Lindblom, Oskar
  2. Myers, Philippe
  3. 2019 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Pietrangelo, Alex
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2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$60,286,543$150,988$447,500$19,213,457
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW
UFA - 2
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O'Reilly, Ryan
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 5
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Tarasenko, Vladimir
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 5
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Schwartz, Jaden
$5,350,000$5,350,000
LW
UFA - 3
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Thomas, Robert
$894,166$894,166
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Schenn, Brayden
$5,125,000$5,125,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Fabbri, Robby
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Bozak, Tyler
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Steen, Alexander
$5,750,000$5,750,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
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Sanford, Zachary
$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$50,000$50K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Barbashev, Ivan
$741,667$741,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Sundqvist, Oskar
$700,000$700,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Dunn, Vince
$722,500$722,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Parayko, Colton
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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Allen, Jake
$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 3
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Edmundson, Joel
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Myers, Philippe
$678,889$678,889
RD
UFA - 2
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Johnson, Chad
$1,750,000$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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Gunnarsson, Carl
$2,900,000$2,900,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Schmaltz, Jordan
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Soshnikov, Nikita
$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Maroon, Patrick
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Foley, Erik
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 3
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Bouwmeester, Jay
$5,400,000$5,400,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Bortuzzo, Robert
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Blais, Samuel
$673,333$673,333 (Performance Bonus$2,500$2K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:39 a.m.
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NickC1988
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Those awful Blackhawks beat your awful blues once you know.... Yeah I feel your pain. At least your GM is trying by signing free agents and making trades, my GM and co. used Q as a scapegoat for a team that clearly doesn't have the right horses to run this race.
Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:40 a.m.
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STLBlues17
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Quoting: NickC1988
Those awful Blackhawks beat your awful blues once you know.... Yeah I feel your pain. At least your GM is trying by signing free agents and making trades, my GM and co. used Q as a scapegoat for a team that clearly doesn't have the right horses to run this race.


Actually you beat us 3 times
Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:43 a.m.
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NickC1988
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Quoting: STLBlues17
Actually you beat us 3 times


Who's counting, at the end of the day we're both racing for Hughes
Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:45 a.m.
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STLBlues17
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Quoting: NickC1988
Who's counting, at the end of the day we're both racing for Hughes


The Blues will have O’Reilly, Hughes, Schenn, Thomas, and Bozak as their centers and still find a way to not win the cup. It will be a legendary collapse.
Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:48 a.m.
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Kyle_Davidson
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Could be worse, you could have Chris Kunitz and Brandon Manning on your team.
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Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:49 a.m.
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NickC1988
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Quoting: STLBlues17
The Blues will have O’Reilly, Hughes, Schenn, Thomas, and Bozak as their centers and still find a way to not win the cup. It will be a legendary collapse.


I'm not doubting you, believe me I can see it. Yeo has always been a mediocre coach with a plethora of talent to work with. Minnesota is finally getting it together without him.
Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Could be worse, you could have Chris Kunitz and Brandon Manning on your team.


Such a waste of 3 million bucks.
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Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Could be worse, you could have Chris Kunitz and Brandon Manning on your team.


We’re paying Jay Bouwmeester 5.4 million...
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Nov. 18, 2018 at 1:59 a.m.
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All those years with Hitch, followed by the Mike Yeo era... There's been so much talent in St. Lou over the years that's been stifled by defensive coaching.
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Nov. 18, 2018 at 2:02 a.m.
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Quoting: IceamiGO
All those years with Hitch, followed by the Mike Yeo era... There's been so much talent in St. Lou over the years that's been stifled by defensive coaching.


Ironically, if Hitchcock coaches this team they would be fantastic
Nov. 18, 2018 at 2:10 a.m.
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SammyT_51
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I would offer Nylander+Zaitsev+1st rounder for Pietrangelo+Steen if you will.
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Nov. 18, 2018 at 2:13 a.m.
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This team not being good has broken my brain. I was expecting them to be amazing with the moves they made this summer. If it wasn't for Jake Allen they'd have been my pick to lead their Division, and maybe even the west.

I still think they can right the ship. All it takes is a goalie change and maybe a coaching change.
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Nov. 18, 2018 at 3:07 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
The Blues will have O’Reilly, Hughes, Schenn, Thomas, and Bozak as their centers and still find a way to not win the cup. It will be a legendary collapse.


Quoting: NickC1988
Who's counting, at the end of the day we're both racing for Hughes


Good Luck in the Jack Hughes race. I hope none of your teams win.
Nov. 18, 2018 at 9:21 a.m.
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BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks
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Finish 11th worst

Signed,
Buffalo
Nov. 18, 2018 at 10:45 a.m.
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Three weeks ago, when I suggested Pietrangelo for Nylander, there was general agreement that it was way too early to fix this mess, and that it was rude to ask..

Given that the Blues have traded one of their next two first round picks, and have a pretty solid roster, rebuilding through the draft doesn't strike me as their most likely course of action. If they move a #1 defenseman for prospects and picks, this season and next season could be rough.

If you make these two trades, you might as well clean house.

I'll start bidding at Holtby, Kempny, and Samsonov for Dunn, Johnson and Tarasenko. Then you can flip Holtby to Calgary, where fans keep offering Kylington, Smith and a 1st for him. That way you get Smith for Johnson (which is neutral), Kylington for Dunn (which is neutral with more ELC term), and Samsonov and a 1st for Tarasenko, which is pretty darn good.
Nov. 18, 2018 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I would offer Nylander+Zaitsev+1st rounder for Pietrangelo+Steen if you will.


Done
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Nov. 18, 2018 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: STLBlues17
Done


Doing AGM teams with this trade for both side right now.
Nov. 18, 2018 at 11:35 a.m.
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STLBlues17
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Quoting: Eli
Three weeks ago, when I suggested Pietrangelo for Nylander, there was general agreement that it was way too early to fix this mess, and that it was rude to ask..

Given that the Blues have traded one of their next two first round picks, and have a pretty solid roster, rebuilding through the draft doesn't strike me as their most likely course of action. If they move a #1 defenseman for prospects and picks, this season and next season could be rough.

If you make these two trades, you might as well clean house.

I'll start bidding at Holtby, Kempny, and Samsonov for Dunn, Johnson and Tarasenko. Then you can flip Holtby to Calgary, where fans keep offering Kylington, Smith and a 1st for him. That way you get Smith for Johnson (which is neutral), Kylington for Dunn (which is neutral with more ELC term), and Samsonov and a 1st for Tarasenko, which is pretty darn good.


Nah man
Nov. 18, 2018 at 11:42 a.m.
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Nah man


Okay. Do half a rebuild, with no answer in net, but keep forwards who will turn thirty before you figure it out.
 
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