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Selling High on Skinner

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Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
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Skinner is not this good and we should trade him for way more than we got him for. He is also a UFA and we might lose him for nothing. Vancouver makes sense to give them a winger for either Horvat or Pettersson
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:01 p.m.
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Sabres have to give up a few picks as canucks are rebuilding
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:04 p.m.
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Sabres have to give up a few picks as canucks are rebuilding


"Skinner not this good" lmao nice one.. His goal scoring ability is only matched by a few, and his hands are.. dare I say it... the best in the league... and same with his skating.


He will put up at least 30 goals for the next 4 years.. ATLEAST.

And all because he has better line mates.. was playing the 3rd line in Carolina under **** Bill Peters.
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:05 p.m.
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Selling high, considering his current shooting percentage might be wise. Though Buffalo has not seen the playoffs in quite a while. So, do you sell high and collect a pot full of treasure, or keep the gang together and hope they can maintain this level of play through the remaining season. I will say, Carter Hutton was an amazing UFA signing and I can only imagine how much St. Louis is kicking themselves for not resigning him.

IF you dealt Skinner as a pure rental at the trade deadline, you could probably get a 1st, great prospect and a quality young NHLer. I honestly think you can do better with the return you've proposed from Vancouver. Ideally, you are looking for a team likely out of the top-10 in draft lottery (so a conditional protected 1st does not get protected), that has a cupboard of prospects and a couple quality young NHLers. Judging from what I can see over in the Western Conference, there sure as heck will be a couple (if not many) desperate teams looking for someone like a Jeff Skinner to carry them into the playoffs.
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:07 p.m.
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Quoting: jslongo
"Skinner not this good" lmao nice one.. His goal scoring ability is only matched by a few, and his hands are.. dare I say it... the best in the league... and same with his skating.


He will put up at least 30 goals for the next 4 years.. ATLEAST.

And all because he has better line mates.. was playing the 3rd line in Carolina under **** Bill Peters.


Yeah because he's a product of his line mates and cant drive his own line! Not that good sir
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:09 p.m.
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Selling high, considering his current shooting percentage might be wise. Though Buffalo has not seen the playoffs in quite a while. So, do you sell high and collect a pot full of treasure, or keep the gang together and hope they can maintain this level of play through the remaining season. I will say, Carter Hutton was an amazing UFA signing and I can only imagine how much St. Louis is kicking themselves for not resigning him.

IF you dealt Skinner as a pure rental at the trade deadline, you could probably get a 1st, great prospect and a quality young NHLer. I honestly think you can do better with the return you've proposed from Vancouver. Ideally, you are looking for a team likely out of the top-10 in draft lottery (so a conditional protected 1st does not get protected), that has a cupboard of prospects and a couple quality young NHLers. Judging from what I can see over in the Western Conference, there sure as heck will be a couple (if not many) desperate teams looking for someone like a Jeff Skinner to carry them into the playoffs.


I believe this trade does live up to these standards as Gadjovich is an ELITE prospect as well as Juolevi plus the 1st and a good young player such as Hutton to top it off
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:11 p.m.
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Yeah because he's a product of his line mates and cant drive his own line! Not that good sir


Buffalo would be near the bottom of the league if not for Skinner.

Ive watched him play the last 8 seasons very closely. Im telling you, he is this good.

He is definitely a streaky player though.. so I expect him to slow down the scoring.

But I can definitely see him hitting 40 this year . Definitely a GREAT player.

Actually very salty that you said hes not this good... blaaahhhh
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:13 p.m.
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Wayyyyyy too much for skinner. Erik karlsson didn’t even get this much. Remove Vancouver’s first and MAYBE
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:14 p.m.
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that 1st round pick from van isnt going anywhere. same thing with Juolevi, i dont see them trading him without him playing a season in the NHL.
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: IAMAHOCKEYPLAYER69
I believe this trade does live up to these standards as Gadjovich is an ELITE prospect as well as Juolevi plus the 1st and a good young player such as Hutton to top it off


Honestly, I would not classify Juolevi as elite. It's not so much about how many pieces, as it is the quality of each piece. A high 1st pick in the 2019 draft, a deep draft mind you, should be money in the bank if the team does their homework and drafts right. Next, you look at the prospect. Would the Oilers, for example, be desperate enough to acquire Skinner to get them into the playoffs that they would be willing to part with a protected 1st (likely high) and Bouchard? Tough to say, but the pressure is certainly on there. I see St. Louis as another possibility. Sabres could end up with Kyrou or Thomas, plus perhaps another young piece as well. Selling high might be the right idea, especially if Skinner is unwilling to commit to an extension before the deadline. It's just a matter of who's desperate enough. I don't Vancouver in that position, at least yet.
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:15 p.m.
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Wayyyyyy too much for skinner. Erik karlsson didn’t even get this much. Remove Vancouver’s first and MAYBE


Makes sense I'm just thinking they do this cause of how well he is playing at the moment
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:16 p.m.
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that 1st round pick from van isnt going anywhere. same thing with Juolevi, i dont see them trading him without him playing a season in the NHL.


I feel like it is the same thing with Puljujuharvi in Edmonton that they are basically giving up on him already so I think it is possible
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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"Skinner not this good" lmao nice one.. His goal scoring ability is only matched by a few, and his hands are.. dare I say it... the best in the league... and same with his skating.


He will put up at least 30 goals for the next 4 years.. ATLEAST.

And all because he has better line mates.. was playing the 3rd line in Carolina under **** Bill Peters.


Yeah, I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people who don't think that Skinner is a legit 35 goal 65 point player. The kid was a seventh overall pick who won the Calder as a rookie. He's averaged 29 goals and 54 points a year on the second line of an offensively deprived non-playoff team, and now he's on a top line with an elite center on a playoff team. Skinner scored 63 points twice in his career on a line that had zero top-line players on it, and now he has a top ten center on his line. Maybe he won't score his projected 62 goal 89 point total, but 40 goals and 70 points is definitely reasonable. That's cooling off to a 30 goal 62 point pace for the remainder of the season. Buffalo fans, you can thank the hockey gods for stumbling on Skinner.
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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Buffalo would be near the bottom of the league if not for Skinner.

Ive watched him play the last 8 seasons very closely. Im telling you, he is this good.

He is definitely a streaky player though.. so I expect him to slow down the scoring.

But I can definitely see him hitting 40 this year . Definitely a GREAT player.

Actually very salty that you said hes not this good... blaaahhhh


Sir would you pay Sir Skinner a lump sum of $8 million +? I do declare he is above average and indeed fit to sleep on more than a bale of hay. But he is in fact being assisted by his greater lords in Sir Jack & Kyle Octopus. If those 2 lords ever go down with injury, paying $8 mil for a player to not produce is a lot SIR
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:20 p.m.
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I feel like it is the same thing with Puljujuharvi in Edmonton that they are basically giving up on him already so I think it is possible


yes.. but no, Puljujarvi been in and out of the NHL, where Juolevi hasnt even played in the NHL, and hes playing pretty good offensively in the AHL right now. so the canucks wont just trade him because he hasnt played in the NHL yet, they just dont want to rush him like they did with Virtanen.
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:21 p.m.
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Sir would you pay Sir Skinner a lump sum of $8 million +? I do declare he is above average and indeed fit to sleep on more than a bale of hay. But he is in fact being assisted by his greater lords in Sir Jack & Kyle Octopus. If those 2 lords ever go down with injury, paying $8 mil for a player to not produce is a lot SIR


Yes I would pay 8 mil for a 40 goal scorer... He literally scored 37 on a god awful Canes team so idk what you are going on about....
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:22 p.m.
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Yes I would pay 8 mil for a 40 goal scorer... He literally scored 37 on a god awful Canes team so idk what you are going on about....


Thats only because Bill Peters got the most out of him!
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:23 p.m.
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Thats only because Bill Peters got the most out of him!


You are straight up wrong lol.. I am a Canes fan so I know what Skinner has been put through... 37 goals with **** line mates
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:24 p.m.
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You are straight up wrong lol.. I am a Canes fan so I know what Skinner has been put through... 37 goals with **** line mates


and im a Skinner fan and can say he's been second best player on every line he's been on
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:25 p.m.
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and im a Skinner fan and can say he's been second best player on every line he's been on


I approve this message
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:26 p.m.
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and im a Skinner fan and can say he's been second best player on every line he's been on


Victor Rask? Justin Williams? Jordan Staal? Brock McGinn? I can go on... clearly never watched Skinner play before


I really hope im getting trolled right now
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:27 p.m.
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Victor Rask? Justin Williams? Jordan Staal? Brock McGinn? I can go on... clearly never watched Skinner play before


I really hope im getting trolled right now


Eichel > Skinner, Rask & Staal have moments where they're a better player than Skinner SIR
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:28 p.m.
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Eichel > Skinner, Rask & Staal have moments where they're a better player than Skinner SIR


This is hilarious... i am done here.

Final conclusion... Apparently a proven 30-40 goal scorer is a BAD PLAYER

bahahahahaha
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:29 p.m.
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This is hilarious... i am done here.

Final conclusion... Apparently a proven 30-40 goal scorer is a BAD PLAYER

bahahahahaha


Thank you for finally understanding! He's not BAD, he's just not WORTH that much $$$, SIR
Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:31 p.m.
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Yeah because he's a product of his line mates and cant drive his own line! Not that good sir


He can create his own offense, though he doesn't normally make those around him better. He's a goal scorer, not a playmaker though. I'd pay anyone 7.5-8 million to score 35-40 goals. Van Riemsdyk scored 36 goals and 54 points and was given 7 million a year. Couture scored 34 goals and 61 points and was paid 8 million. I think it's fair to believe that Skinner is at least in between the two. He's certainly better than JVR.
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Nov. 28, 2018 at 4:31 p.m.
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Or....or....or you could keep the player that is single handedly getting the team that was last in the league last year to first in the league this year.

That is also an option.
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