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Team: 2018-19 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2018
Published: Dec. 3, 2018
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value is probably around equal but would either teams want this? The Skjei ACGM got me sparked with the Defence problem...
Trades
BOS
  1. Hamilton, Dougie ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (BUF)
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Conditional 2020 3rd (BUF): If Hamilton scores over 40 points this season, the 3rd rounder will turn into a 2020 4th round pick.
CAR
  1. Heinen, Danton
  2. Kampfer, Steven
  3. Senyshyn, Zach
  4. 2019 1st round pick (BOS)
  5. 2020 4th round pick (BOS)
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Conditional 2019 1st round: If Heinen puts up over 35 points this season, the 2019 1st round will turn into a 2019 2nd round pick. If Heinen doesn't put up such numbers and the bruins 2019 first round pick turns into a top 10 pick, the bruins can chose to give up 2020 1st rounder instead.

idk about this trade... The hurricanes are at the bottom of the cap floor right now so salary retainments aren't that bad.... They have an excess of Dman and could use some foward help. there was this theory of a trade hurricanes leaf trade that was hamilton and others for nylander. If I am not wrong, the canes are willing to trade hamilton. Next year, I believe Chara will retire and so we will need a #1 Dman. Hamilton could definitely step up to the job and that is why I believe we need this trade. idk tho... what are you thoughts on this? Also, Heinen will probably be asking for more than what he is worth right now. Potential change of scenario could help him. Hamilton isn't doing well point wise considering the amount of shots taken...
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2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$79,500,000$75,159,835$774,000$3,525,000$4,340,165
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 5
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$789,167$789,167
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
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Dec. 3, 2018 at 6:57 a.m.
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Don't want Hamilton back. He's on his 3rd team by the age of 25, that's all you need to know
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Dec. 3, 2018 at 7:28 a.m.
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Don't want Hamilton back. He's on his 3rd team by the age of 25, that's all you need to know


he couldn't fit into the system during his time in Boston. Too many strong guys and too many players who take shots. Hes back here now with an offensively struggling team. I think he will fit well this time. I know hes been in 3 teams but a reason could be he was unable to coop with the team's system.
Dec. 3, 2018 at 8:02 a.m.
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he couldn't fit into the system during his time in Boston. Too many strong guys and too many players who take shots. Hes back here now with an offensively struggling team. I think he will fit well this time. I know hes been in 3 teams but a reason could be he was unable to coop with the team's system.


Hamilton burned enough bridges when he left a few years ago, Boston isn't touch him. I like how you try to make it seem like the fact that he's been with 3 teams by the age of 25 is not his fault, but the teams system.
Dec. 3, 2018 at 8:28 a.m.
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B’s don’t want him back. Canes decline anyway.
Dec. 3, 2018 at 9:01 a.m.
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This one doesn't really make any sense. The injuries kinda show they have great depth back there and don't need to add. Yes the offense from the blue line hasn't been as potent but krug is just getting his stride and chara and macavoy hurt don't help. The big issue is depth scoring, heinen, donato, bjork, backes just haven't chipped in at all.
Dec. 3, 2018 at 9:43 a.m.
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This one doesn't really make any sense. The injuries kinda show they have great depth back there and don't need to add. Yes the offense from the blue line hasn't been as potent but krug is just getting his stride and chara and macavoy hurt don't help. The big issue is depth scoring, heinen, donato, bjork, backes just haven't chipped in at all.


I agree, but when Chara is retired, its a different story. We could use another #1 Dman. Ik we are still doing decent, but we are still suffering. Hamilton is offensive and thats why I thought he would help us get scoring going
Dec. 3, 2018 at 9:45 a.m.
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Hamilton burned enough bridges when he left a few years ago, Boston isn't touch him. I like how you try to make it seem like the fact that he's been with 3 teams by the age of 25 is not his fault, but the teams system.


I understand your point but the thing is, hes found his play in the canes, which is to take a lot of shots... These could turn into offensive tools that help our depth score. IDK, but there are trades that are trades. Hamilton isn't as elite as many other Dman but he could turn into something if he finds himself.
Dec. 3, 2018 at 10:25 a.m.
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What defense problem?
Dec. 3, 2018 at 10:36 a.m.
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I understand your point but the thing is, hes found his play in the canes, which is to take a lot of shots... These could turn into offensive tools that help our depth score. IDK, but there are trades that are trades. Hamilton isn't as elite as many other Dman but he could turn into something if he finds himself.


The guy is on pace for over 300 shots this season. He currently ranks 12th among ALL NHL players in shots, yet he ranks T-263th in goals and T-275th in points. Lets also not forget that he's getting roughly 60% of his zone starts in the offensive zone. How does it makes sense that a guy who shots along but has little production is going to help this defense? How about the B's defense just get healthy? I mean McAvoy had 6pt in 7 games before getting hurt. Krug has 12 points in 15 games since starting his year. Gryz in a bit of a 10 game funk, but prior to that he had 8pts in 14 games. Once guys like McAvoy/Carlo/Chara return, it slots everyone back where they should be playing.
Dec. 3, 2018 at 10:40 a.m.
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I agree, but when Chara is retired, its a different story. We could use another #1 Dman. Ik we are still doing decent, but we are still suffering. Hamilton is offensive and thats why I thought he would help us get scoring going


If if Chara retires after this season....

Vaak - McAvoy
Krug - Carlo
Grzy - Moore

^not a bad top 6 and I'm not even factoring in the following who could be here if Chara left after this year:

Lauzon
Zboril
Miller
Clifton
Andersson
Sherman
Dec. 3, 2018 at 5:50 p.m.
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I agree, but when Chara is retired, its a different story. We could use another #1 Dman. Ik we are still doing decent, but we are still suffering. Hamilton is offensive and thats why I thought he would help us get scoring going


Well ideally it's macavoy being the stud back there. I was hoping carlo might morph into a stud defensive player and they'd have a pair at the top.
Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:24 a.m.
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Well ideally it's macavoy being the stud back there. I was hoping carlo might morph into a stud defensive player and they'd have a pair at the top.


thats two righties...
Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:25 a.m.
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If if Chara retires after this season....

Vaak - McAvoy
Krug - Carlo
Grzy - Moore

^not a bad top 6 and I'm not even factoring in the following who could be here if Chara left after this year:

Lauzon
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Miller
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true, but we only have one top 2 Dman. We will be suffering from the top paring. IDK but who knows what Vaak can do this year. If he does well, we don't need another player.
Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:25 a.m.
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What defense problem?


I was thinking that if Chara retires, we have one top 2Dman and Hamilton will be a top 2 with McAvoy. But don't care about this. This wasn't anywhere good
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Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:36 a.m.
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true, but we only have one top 2 Dman. We will be suffering from the top paring. IDK but who knows what Vaak can do this year. If he does well, we don't need another player.


McAvoy can play top pairing. Carlo can play top pairing, hell I think this year we've seen krug, gryz, moore all lead boston dmen in TOI. Not to mention, how many teams have two legit #1's on the team?
Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:38 a.m.
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McAvoy can play top pairing. Carlo can play top pairing, hell I think this year we've seen krug, gryz, moore all lead boston dmen in TOI. Not to mention, how many teams have two legit #1's on the team?


Yeah true. Carlo tho... hes a rightie with a rightie, not ideal... If we kinda wanna contend next year, I think Hamilton is the safe game, but who knows.
Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:41 a.m.
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Yeah true. Carlo tho... hes a rightie with a rightie, not ideal... If we kinda wanna contend next year, I think Hamilton is the safe game, but who knows.


You're screwing with me right? Carlo doesn't work on the 1st pairing because he's a righty like McAvoy, but Hamilton is the safe game for 1st pairing if we want to contend?
Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:44 a.m.
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You're screwing with me right? Carlo doesn't work on the 1st pairing because he's a righty like McAvoy, but Hamilton is the safe game for 1st pairing if we want to contend?


not really. I didn't say that Carlo doesn't work. I say that it could be concerning and the two are both young. IDK if they are ready to be on the same pairing and the chemistry. I don't know but they could work. Hamilton is safe to say that we have a top pairing, otherwise we don't know. For a contention, you wanna have a good top pairing and a good depth. We already have a good top line but we are lacking depth from our fowards. Hamilton will give us a top pairing.
Dec. 4, 2018 at 6:49 a.m.
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not really. I didn't say that Carlo doesn't work. I say that it could be concerning and the two are both young. IDK if they are ready to be on the same pairing and the chemistry. I don't know but they could work. Hamilton is safe to say that we have a top pairing, otherwise we don't know. For a contention, you wanna have a good top pairing and a good depth. We already have a good top line but we are lacking depth from our fowards. Hamilton will give us a top pairing.


You just said Carlo isn't ideal because hes a righty, but your proposal is to acquire Hamilton who is a righty. Things like this is why people don't take you seriously
Dec. 4, 2018 at 8:09 a.m.
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You just said Carlo isn't ideal because hes a righty, but your proposal is to acquire Hamilton who is a righty. Things like this is why people don't take you seriously


the thing is, Hamilton is naturally on the left. Carlo has played his whole career on the right
Dec. 4, 2018 at 9:21 a.m.
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the thing is, Hamilton is naturally on the left. Carlo has played his whole career on the right


How is he naturally on the left when he's right handed? He's played the right side since coming into the NHL 6-7 years ago. I remember when he was drafted, B's fan rejoiced because we felt like we had our future #1RHD. When he went to CGY he was the #1RHD with Gio and now in CAR he is the #1RHD with Slavin on his left.

Here is what we know: BOS Edition
- Once BOS said no to acquire his brother, Hamilton refused stay with Boston.
- Hamilton was offered nearly an identical deal to what he got in CGY and refused to sign it again because of his brother
- Didn't mess well with the rest of the locker room. Came off to some as having "his nose up in the air"

Here is what we know: CGY Edition
- 3 months after acquire Dougie, they acquired his brother Freddie
- Hamilton was labeled by CGY management as someone who was content with losing
- Rumors are that Hamilton didn't like to do stuff with the team, but rather be by himself (for example at a museum)
- After Freddie was traded in January, rumors were he (Dougie) told GMBT he wasn't happy.
- Hamilton was asked to move from 1st pairing to 2nd pairing (this year) in hopes of getting Brodie going and Hamilton didn't like the idea.

Listen off the ice the kid is probably one of the nicest people there is. This is a business though and there are a lot of red flags between the two different organizations he's played for. Don't you think its odd that a kid with Hamilton's age, sill level and position has been traded twice in 3-4 years? Oh BTW, Hamilton is on pace for 28 points and currently has the worst P/GP of his career.
 
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