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Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 12, 2018
Published: Dec. 12, 2018
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Just to play him 2nd C lol
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2$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
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23$83,000,000$82,827,142$0$3,282,500$172,858
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Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:15 p.m.
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incoming triggered leafs fans
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
incoming triggered leafs fans


Lol I hope they are sleeping already Sticking Out Tongue
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Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:21 p.m.
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Again, 2 things people keep forgetting. Thats 4 first round picks would have to give up AND Matthews would have to agree to that.
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Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:24 p.m.
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probably pass
i'd Offer Sheet Finnish Elite Patrik Laine to play with Kotkanemi-Lehkonen .

we dont need a Center with Kotkanemi here , Poehling only 2nd to Hughes in Team USA's plans for IIHF U18 he's grown into a top possession forward and special teams leader , Suzuki likely to play Domi Wing but if he some how rotate's into Center he's got faceoff skills and out worked everyone by Plekanec in the faceoff area in Camp and Pre-season (if Kotkanemi didnt stay up i thought Suzuki was ) and Evans who could serve as a solid third C for years to come but like Shaw i think he'll play where we need him and take faceoffs when asked .

this isnt even including Olofsson in SHL as a teen among men so his learning curve could be quicker then Ikonen's has been .


MTL truly needs a top LD and a top LW 30 goal scorer like Laine (and WPG cant match really in their position contract wise
Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:26 p.m.
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I don't think Matthews would go to Montreal for a few dollars more, so I don't the Habs are real offer sheet threat Besides look at the cap and Montreal has to resign Domi and Juulsen for those players the following year.
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Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:27 p.m.
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Again, 2 things people keep forgetting. Thats 4 first round picks would have to give up AND Matthews would have to agree to that.


if matthews doesnt agree, he can use the offer sheet as leverage and completely ruin the leafs cap situation. win win for matthews and the habs. one tema just gained a competitive advantage
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Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:29 p.m.
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Again, 2 things people keep forgetting. Thats 4 first round picks would have to give up AND Matthews would have to agree to that.


ARZ's young GM could be that bold .

appeal to his inner Coyotes fan and sell to him that he'll be the player who makes the NHL's fans Respect them . ARZ has a great offense right now he'd thrive and good LD with a tandem that's working with prospects in the depth pool so maybe it would be worth it to them knowing they can flip players for a 1st if they really see someone they want at the draft

if ARZ didnt have such a bold GM i'd not think it possible but knowing Mathews could be the name to build a solid faithful in ARZ might be worth 4 first given in ARZ history they've only drafter top 5 three times and no higher then third overall despite being dead last the bulk of their existence
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Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:31 p.m.
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I don't think Matthews would go to Montreal for a few dollars more, so I don't the Habs are real offer sheet threat Besides look at the cap and Montreal has to resign Domi and Juulsen for those players the following year.


Juulsen wont get a say he isnt arbitration eligible until the year after his contract expire's so he signs or he sits and there for not able to offer sheet him
Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
if matthews doesnt agree, he can use the offer sheet as leverage and completely ruin the leafs cap situation. win win for matthews and the habs. one tema just gained a competitive advantage


All of you guys are out of your mind saying "hell want to ruin the cap" you guys brain dead? lmfao, if he wants to win here why would he try to ruin the cap??? You guys are the same people that said Tavares wouldnt sign in TOR and he took a home town discount lmao
Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
All of you guys are out of your mind saying "hell want to ruin the cap" you guys brain dead? lmfao, if he wants to win here why would he try to ruin the cap??? You guys are the same people that said Tavares wouldnt sign in TOR and he took a home town discount lmao


what incentive does matthews have to take a discount??? is he in sunny tampa where he can be in shorts year long and enjoy the beach, no crazy media? is he in a low tax area? is he in his home state? NO. he has 0 incentive to take a discount. and the pace he's at right now, he very well could make 13 to 14mill. u
Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
if matthews doesnt agree, he can use the offer sheet as leverage and completely ruin the leafs cap situation. win win for matthews and the habs. one tema just gained a competitive advantage


It certainly is not leverage when the Leafs know that Matthews has no intention of signing a 14m contract with Montreal. Leafs might be offering 12m. Do you really think he would sign for Montreal for 2m more.
Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
It certainly is not leverage when the Leafs know that Matthews has no intention of signing a 14m contract with Montreal. Leafs might be offering 12m. Do you really think he would sign for Montreal for 2m more.


of course he wont. but he can certainly use that offer as leverage to get more money out of toronto. thats what drasaitl did, and he wasn't even offer sheeted. it was the threat of an offer sheet that got him more money. matthews can and will do the same
Dec. 12, 2018 at 11:55 p.m.
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Juulsen wont get a say he isnt arbitration eligible until the year after his contract expire's so he signs or he sits and there for not able to offer sheet him


I didn't say the Leafs would offer sheet Juulsen, but Matthews, Price and Weber does put the Habs in a cap dilemma soon, especially if some of those young guys deserved big raises. Maybe they wouldn't be able to sign their RFA guys soon.
Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
of course he wont. but he can certainly use that offer as leverage to get more money out of toronto. thats what drasaitl did, and he wasn't even offer sheeted. it was the threat of an offer sheet that got him more money. matthews can and will do the same


???? Still don't see your logic. If the Leafs offer what they think is their max....even before an offer sheet let's say 12m. How is 14m offer sheet that he isn't going to sign any leverage? Real leverage would be if had signed the offer sheet. Now if Arizona had done it, maybe that's different. Doesn't really matter what Drassaitl did, that was the Oilers. Leafs say, fine here's sign with Montreal, they'll be cap strapped soon. Leafs have 12m to spend on other players and have the four picks.
Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:05 a.m.
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???? Still don't see your logic. If the Leafs offer what they think is their max....even before an offer sheet let's say 12m. How is 14m offer sheet that he isn't going to sign any leverage? Real leverage would be if had signed the offer sheet. Now if Arizona had done it, maybe that's different. Doesn't really matter what Drassaitl did, that was the Oilers. Leafs say, fine here's sign with Montreal, they'll be cap strapped soon. Leafs have 12m to spend on other players and have the four picks.


a player wants the most money possible. in the market a team comes and says i'll pay u this much. he doesnt want to play for that team, but he;d like the money. he goes back to the leafs and says, a team offered me this much, they think im worth this much. what do u think im worth. if the team wants to keep him, they pay him his market value. is that easy enough for u to understand? it doesnt matter the team that offer sheets him, its about the number. agent will use that as leverage
Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
a player wants the most money possible. in the market a team comes and says i'll pay u this much. he doesnt want to play for that team, but he;d like the money. he goes back to the leafs and says, a team offered me this much, they think im worth this much. what do u think im worth. if the team wants to keep him, they pay him his market value. is that easy enough for u to understand? it doesnt matter the team that offer sheets him, its about the number. agent will use that as leverage


I understand your funny thought what market is. You say it's 14m, which is may or may not be. IF and only if the Leafs believed that Matthews would sign the 14m offer sheet is it any type of leverage for Matthews. The Leafs could still say 12m is our top offer. You seem to think, Matthews or any player is going to sign for the top dollar only. Factually that hasn't been the case in some circumstances. You think I don't understand. You don't understand that players don't always sign for top dollar. Well, I think you know that players don't always sign for top dollar, but you're trying to convince me that the Leafs have to.
Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:19 a.m.
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I understand your funny thought what market is. You say it's 14m, which is may or may not be. IF and only if the Leafs believed that Matthews would sign the 14m offer sheet is it any type of leverage for Matthews. The Leafs could still say 12m is our top offer. You seem to think, Matthews or any player is going to sign for the top dollar only. Factually that hasn't been the case in some circumstances. You think I don't understand. You don't understand that players don't always sign for top dollar. Well, I think you know that players don't always sign for top dollar, but you're trying to convince me that the Leafs have to.


how stupid can one be. i never knew someone could be as stupid as u. u r completely blinded by ur delusional love for the leafs lmao. stick to losing against an ahl bruins line up bud.
Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:31 a.m.
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how stupid can one be. i never knew someone could be as stupid as u. u r completely blinded by ur delusional love for the leafs lmao. stick to losing against an ahl bruins line up bud.


No it your delusional love, that Matthews will sign for a few more dollars with Montreal. It certainly isn't leverage when he isn't going to sign with Montreal.
"how stupid can one be. i never knew someone could be as stupid as u". Now I really don't think you're stupid, and you shouldn't put yourself down like that by calling yourself stupid. It's just that you don't know the meaning of leverage and how it's used.
Fact is Habs have to overpay for UFAs causing those players will only take the higher amount of money to play in Laval.
Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:50 a.m.
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No it your delusional love, that Matthews will sign for a few more dollars with Montreal. It certainly isn't leverage when he isn't going to sign with Montreal.
"how stupid can one be. i never knew someone could be as stupid as u". Now I really don't think you're stupid, and you shouldn't put yourself down like that by calling yourself stupid. It's just that you don't know the meaning of leverage and how it's used.
Fact is Habs have to overpay for UFAs causing those players will only take the higher amount of money to play in Laval.


My guy, let him be lmfao. He actually has no idea what players and the cap structure really is like. I've said it before, ill say it again. These are the same people that called leaf fans **** for thinking Tavares was going to sign here lol
Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:51 a.m.
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how stupid can one be. i never knew someone could be as stupid as u. u r completely blinded by ur delusional love for the leafs lmao. stick to losing against an ahl bruins line up bud.


check the standings plus the latest hab game, losing 7 - 1 to the power house minni team. tavares refused to have an ufa interview with habs, Matthews won't waste his time also
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Dec. 13, 2018 at 12:58 a.m.
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Quoting: clark
check the standings plus the latest hab game, losing 7 - 1 to the power house minni team. tavares refused to have an ufa interview with habs, Matthews won't waste his time also


u mans realllllly need to get ur head out ur back ends and read about hockey. watch a few games. listen to interviews. but then again, that is hard work. making up a biased opinion is easier eh. loved watching the leafs lose against half an ahl line up. or when chara shut down matthews. pure gold.
Dec. 13, 2018 at 1:07 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
No it your delusional love, that Matthews will sign for a few more dollars with Montreal. It certainly isn't leverage when he isn't going to sign with Montreal.
"how stupid can one be. i never knew someone could be as stupid as u". Now I really don't think you're stupid, and you shouldn't put yourself down like that by calling yourself stupid. It's just that you don't know the meaning of leverage and how it's used.
Fact is Habs have to overpay for UFAs causing those players will only take the higher amount of money to play in Laval.


Leafs are in the same boat at UFA signings. Take Marleau as a perfect example. They had to give him a butt load of cash and also add a year for him to sign, and now leafs will pay for next year. TOR and MTL are the highest NHL cities when it comes to taxes (TOR #1, MTL #2). Also add that there is still a large minority of players that have no interest in playing in Canadian markets, and a large majority of players who’d prefer to stay away from media crazy markets (TOR and MTL being the two biggest media coveraged NHL cities)

Before people use JT as an example to say the opposite, he’s one of the rare exceptions. He wanted to play for his childhood team, and left money on the table (as in an 8th year on his contract) to do it.

But yeah if Matthews leaves the leafs, it won’t be MTL, I’ll agree with that. But if TOR don’t sign Matthews before July 1st, yes he will have leverage. ARI offer sheet is almost for sure to happen, and it would be incredibly naive to think otherwise. $14mil+ A year in Arizona (tax free state) is a lot more than just an extra $2mil compared to a $12mil a year in Toronto.
Dec. 13, 2018 at 3:14 a.m.
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Atleast spell his name right
Dec. 13, 2018 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Leafs are in the same boat at UFA signings. Take Marleau as a perfect example. They had to give him a butt load of cash and also add a year for him to sign, and now leafs will pay for next year. TOR and MTL are the highest NHL cities when it comes to taxes (TOR #1, MTL #2). Also add that there is still a large minority of players that have no interest in playing in Canadian markets, and a large majority of players who’d prefer to stay away from media crazy markets (TOR and MTL being the two biggest media coveraged NHL cities)

Before people use JT as an example to say the opposite, he’s one of the rare exceptions. He wanted to play for his childhood team, and left money on the table (as in an 8th year on his contract) to do it.

But yeah if Matthews leaves the leafs, it won’t be MTL, I’ll agree with that. But if TOR don’t sign Matthews before July 1st, yes he will have leverage. ARI offer sheet is almost for sure to happen, and it would be incredibly naive to think otherwise. $14mil+ A year in Arizona (tax free state) is a lot more than just an extra $2mil compared to a $12mil a year in Toronto.


I don't think taxes is really an issue at all. Players are incorporated and certainly we are not talking about them paying personal tax rates. We never hear about American players playing for the Raptors or Blue Jays demanding more money to play in Toronto due to taxes.
Yes, I agree with you that Arizona could very well put in an offer sheet. Now that would be leverage for Matthews, because there is real possibility he would sign that offer sheet. I suggested that even a higher offer from a less desirable location than Arizona and Toronto, such as Montreal (that's my assumption) would not really hold leverage.
Agree with you that Matthews and really most players if they have gone this far towards UFA or RFA status, you might as go past July 1st to see what any offers might occur or as you say ,a type of leverage to be used.
I have said it before what I think will happen. Matthews will yes a threat of an offer sheet (whether he has one or not) and used for better TERM for the Leafs. IMO he will get a four or five year contract from the Leafs (thought the Leafs want eight years). So he takes less money 11.5m or 12 m lets say in a four or five year team. Plays for a very good Leafs team and all the benefits of playing with the Leafs and in Toronto. He then is UFA sooner and then he can go to another team maybe the Rangers or Ducks or Chicago or maybe even the Leafs to exploit his commercial value as one of the top players in the NHL.
Regarding your Marleau front loaded contract. It isn't just Marleau. Leafs seem to be doing that with many of their star players. Leafs...(Bell and Rogers) are using their financial power to be able to make this front loaded deals, for a couple of reasons. One reason to so it's an easier trade for a player to a team who will have to put out less money. IMO Nylander is going to have to traded for cap reasons at some time. After July 1, his remaining five years of his 7m cap contract, the money paid is actually is 6.14m per year.
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Dec. 13, 2018 at 8:59 a.m.
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My guy, let him be lmfao. He actually has no idea what players and the cap structure really is like. I've said it before, ill say it again. These are the same people that called leaf fans **** for thinking Tavares was going to sign here lol


No he's just a Leaf fan hater/baiter. When it comes to the Leafs he just refuses to argue facts or discuss others points of view. When Clark mentioned that Tavares won't even bother to interview with the Habs, he rants about a Leafs loss in Boston.
He used to argue/beg that the Leafs needed to trade for Weber. Not that I think he ever believed anything he wrote, but he just loves being argumentative to Leaf fans. It's his gig on this site.
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