Dude you can’t be serious if you actually agree that Brendan “50 point” Gallagher is better than Mikko “80+ plus” rantenen. Good players feed off each other. Rantenen and Mackinnon both improve each other’s game

Once he proves he can do it without being carried by MacKinnon I wouldn’t consider him top 10

Because you don't know how to come to conclusions. Gallagher is a proven better player going both ways and Kane, carrying dead weight at some points, still proves better stats. Kane carries an offense (i.e. playing with Schmaltz very often, and schmaltz was allergic to shooting). Kane is a franchise level player, there's no argument possible for him to fall anywhere out of the top 3 yet. Plus, you cant copy links on that site, but im sure you only looked at this year for your "argument", and you can still see that Kane is better offensively

And he won’t be able to unless Mackinnon gets injured haha. Like I said, elite players feed off each other.
It’s like saying Kuri isn’t a top winger of all time cause he played with Wayne Gretzky

There is a lot of comments on this post already

Are we comparing Rantanen to Jarri Kurri?

This. I just looked and it seems to me that Kane and Gallagher crush Rantanen in every catergory when you look at the largest sample size (2016-2019)

Points/=Skill. Not a hard concept to take in

Well theres some trying to defend Burns as a top 10 RHD, wrong
Some trying to defend Kessel and Rants as top 10 RWs, wrong
and a whole lotta "advanced analytics" (points!!)

Oh of course not. That’s an extreme example. I’m just using ur argument that he’s carried by Mackinnon

Lmao burns, kessel, and rantenen are all top 10 at their position, get outta here with your corsi stuff.
Not a single GM would take Gallagher over kessel / rantenen that’s funny

I must be missing something. The difference between Kurri and Rantanen is the fact that Kurri could produce on his own. God did I just have to compare Rantanen and Kurri?

I dont need advanced analytics to tell you that Burns isnt a top 10 RHD. His defending is an absolute trainwreck. No need to dig any deeper on the one-dimensionalism (not a real word) of kessel and rants

I don't even have to use advanced stats to say that Kessel isn't a top 10 RW, and I'm a Pens fan

Also the whole Gally argument is COMPLETELY based on team needs lmao. Gally is arguably top 3 (just estimating here) two way RW. Thats a huge point to take him, where as one-dimensional snipers who lack any sort of defense are way more common lmao

2 Norris nominees, and one win. He’s amazing. Settle down.
And lmao his role on pit isn’t to be defensive. It’s to put up a lot of points/ goals which he clearly does

LMAO OH GOD IM DONE HERE HAHA

You clearly don’t watch enough games then haha

wow i guess gallagher is also better than ovechkin then... in fact ovechkin is probably one of the worst wingers in the league according to those stats. This is where analytics are flawed.

100%. It’s a great stat that has come along way through the years but it’s not perfect yet.

No dear god no. DONT BRING OUT THE NORRIS TROPHY ARGUMENT

What analytics are you looking at? Ovi’s defense is subpar, sure. But his absolute unbelievable offensive stats MORE than make up for it.

No. I've seen 90% of games this year. Kessel is lethargic at all times, depends on the PP to get a large sum of his points (yes, there's that wonderful word), and is awful in his own end.

Just so you know, those aren't advanced analytics

https://ibb.co/0V4Ymm9
Comparing one of the greatest goalscorers of a time and a generational talent to a two way by probably looking at stats that favor Gallaghers play style. Not a good look

could say the same about rantanen

Ovi is arguably the greatest goal scorer of all time. Not sure what your issue is with comparing Rantanen to players that are way out of his league