Swapping Bad Contracts w Vancouver

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Created by: bruinsdude77

Team: 2018-19 Boston Bruins

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2019

Published: Jan. 9, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I know that the organization likes Backes for his leadership and character, but at some point they have to realize that the on-ice product is only going to get worse and Backes is no longer a top-nine contributor on a contending team. Vancouver and old pal Jim Benning have made mistakes too and they may be willing to swap capable players they are sick of for a high-class guy who can help out their young team that is still a couple years from being taken seriously. The pick and prospect are a nice kicker. Yes, Backes has a NTC, but he strikes me as someone who would waive it if he felt like he was no longer wanted.

I think the Bruins desperately need a winger who can find chemistry with Krejci and DeBrusk and a stopgap third line center. The easiest way to add those pieces without giving up top picks and prospects is to recycle garbage. I think Eriksson and certainly Gagner have gas left in the tank but just aren't being given the proper opportunity to show what they can do. Not to mention Eriksson has familiarity with Krejci and Gagner has been playing with kids all year so their spots in the lineup are perfect. Worse case scenario, buy out Gagner this summer or bury him next year and Eriksson is at least a more offensively inclined cap drain than Backes was.

Trades

BOS

Eriksson, Loui ($1,000,000 retained)
Gagner, Sam ($1,000,000 retained)

VAN

Backes, David
Johansson, Emil
2019 5th round pick (BOS)

Buyouts

Dennis Seidenberg: $1,166,667
Jimmy Hayes: $866,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Beleskey: $1,900,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020
2021

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$79,500,000	$76,192,335	$774,000	$3,737,500	$3,307,665

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marchand, Brad $6,125,000$6,125,000 LW NMC UFA - 7	Bergeron, Patrice $6,875,000$6,875,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Pastrnak, David $6,666,667$6,666,667 RW UFA - 5
DeBrusk, Jake $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) RW, LW UFA - 2	Krejci, David $7,250,000$7,250,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Eriksson, Loui $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 4
Heinen, Danton $872,500$872,500 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Gagner, Sam $1,835,000$1,835,000 RW, C UFA - 2	Donato, Ryan $900,000$900,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C, RW UFA - 1
Nordström, Joakim $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Kuraly, Sean $1,275,000$1,275,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Wagner, Chris $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, C UFA - 2
Bjork, Anders $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob $916,667$916,667 RW, C RFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $725,000$725,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chara, Zdeno $5,000,000$5,000,000 ($1,750,000$2M) LD NMC UFA - 1	McAvoy, Charlie $916,667$916,667 ($500,000$500K) RD UFA - 1	Rask, Tuukka $7,000,000$7,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Krug, Torey $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Carlo, Brandon $789,167$789,167 RD UFA - 1	Halák, Jaroslav $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Moore, John $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD UFA - 5	Miller, Kevan $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2
Grzelcyk, Matt $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 2	Kampfer, Steven $650,000$650,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marchand, B.		Bergeron, P.		Pastrnak, D.
	Krug, T.		Krejci, D.

Power Play 2
Donato, R.		DeBrusk, J.		Eriksson, L.
	Moore, J.		McAvoy, C.

Penalty Kill 1
	Nordström, J.	Wagner, C.
	Chara, Z.	Carlo, B.

Penalty Kill 2
	Marchand, B.	Bergeron, P.
	Moore, J.	Miller, K.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 4:10 a.m.

ON3M4N

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Over the last 2.5 seasons...

Backes - 165gp / 82pts / .50pgp
Loui - 160gp / 63pts / .39pgp

^ Explain again how Loui is more offensively inclined than Backes? Oh and don't forget, Loui spent time playing with a few future HOFer's in the Sedin Twins. Backes has been forced to play the bottom 6 with guys like Riley Nash, Danton Heinen, Sean Kuraly, Chris Wagner and Noel Acciari.

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Jan. 9, 2019 at 4:22 a.m.

Canucks1

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Lol, Eriksson VERY RARELY played with the Sedins. You don’t watch the nucks often do you? However you’re right, offensively I wouldn’t call eriksson better, but defensively, he’s excellent. Fair swap imo.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 4:35 a.m.

Caniac2000

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Erikssen spent 75% of his time on ice with Brandon Sutter.... Brandon Sutter...... like....

Jan. 9, 2019 at 5:29 a.m.

pharrow

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Gagner is so slow. I have seen paint dry faster than him.

Putting him as your 3C is like asking to be lapped around the ice like every game.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 7:00 a.m.

ON3M4N

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Quoting: Canucks1

Doesn't make my statement wrong that he played with some future HOFer's does it? Nope.

Btw defensively Backes is better than Loui. Backes has finished top 5 in Selke voting 4 times in his career and runner up once. Loui had never finished better than 23rd in selke voting.

Ask a GM who they rather have and majority (if not all) are taking Backes.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 8:51 a.m.

NucksFanForLife

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Edited Jan. 9, 2019 at 9:12 a.m.

Quoting: ON3M4N

Backes was better defensively. Eriksson was used as a top line scorer for most of his career and didn't play a defensive role at all until he met Green. If you can't play well defensively on Vancouver, you won't get ice time. So Eriksson had to adapt. Here's a defensive/offensive comparison between the two this year to date.

Backes/Eriksson: CF% Rel; -1.5-1.9, GF/60-Rel; 1.6-2.1 GA/60-Rel; 1.8-2.1, SHCF%; 8.4-15.2 SHGF/60; 0.0-1.8, SHGA/60; 14.6-1.8, dZs%; 57.0-54.9, TOI/60; 13:54-14:39, TK/82; 54-29, GV/82; 40-9, Thru%; 64.3-59.0, G/82; 9.3-12.7, A/82; 16.4-16.4, Pts/82; 25.7-29.1, Sog/82; 168.6-112.9, BLK/82; 35.1-27.3, PS/60; 1.6-1.6, SAtt; 262.4-191.3, SH%; 5.6-11.2,
oiSH%Rel; 5.2-6.1, oiSV%-Rel; 94.0-93.6, PDO-Rel; 99.2-99.7.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 8:59 a.m.

Breakaway

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WTF, how did someone with the name bruinsdude77 make a thread that screws over the team this much. Eriksson sucks and doesn't help your team make the playoffs (hes only been to the playoffs 3 times) and once you make it his scoring is low (.41 ppg). Backes is a way better player than Eriksson at this point at basically everything. Gagner is waiver fodder that no-one needs. The Bruins give up the 2 best players in this deal because while we don't know what Johansson is yet we do know he's not a total overpaid turd like the 2 players Vancouver is contributing to this deal.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 9:16 a.m.

NucksFanForLife

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Quoting: Breakaway

Yeah, take out the pick and Johansson and keep it at Gagner and Eriksson for Backes. Though I don't think that Backes is better than Eriksson. I'll let you decide. Here's the stats.

Backes/Eriksson: CF% Rel; -1.5-1.9, GF/60-Rel; 1.6-2.1 GA/60-Rel; 1.8-2.1, SHCF%; 8.4-15.2 SHGF/60; 0.0-1.8, SHGA/60; 14.6-1.8, dZs%; 57.0-54.9, TOI/60; 13:54-14:39, TK/82; 54-29, GV/82; 40-9, Thru%; 64.3-59.0, G/82; 9.3-12.7, A/82; 16.4-16.4, Pts/82; 25.7-29.1, Sog/82; 168.6-112.9, BLK/82; 35.1-27.3, PS/60; 1.6-1.6, SAtt; 262.4-191.3, SH%; 5.6-11.2,
oiSH%Rel; 5.2-6.1, oiSV%-Rel; 94.0-93.6, PDO-Rel; 99.2-99.7.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 9:45 a.m.

Breakaway

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Quoting: NucksFanForLife

The problem with this is that I still think Backes is the better player than Eriksson and Gagner has no value. I literally wouldn't give you all the change in my pants pockets for Gagner straight up even if the pockets were empty. He's waiver fodder that this team likely passes on.

Jan. 9, 2019 at 10:23 a.m.

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: ON3M4N

I don't like this trade for the Bruins either, mostly because of term, but Loui Eriksson with one arm and a bad flu is better defensively than Backes. He's one of the best defensive wingers the league has seen in the last two decades.

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Jan. 9, 2019 at 10:25 a.m.

#11

NucksFanForLife

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Quoting: Breakaway

Why is Backes better? And yes, I agree that Gagner has no value, but if Vancouver retained two million on Eriksson and nothing on Gagner this is fair. Gagner can and will be sent to the minors to relieve a bit of cap. I honestly don't see the point in this trade though. Backes has no role in Vancouver. He can't kill penalties, he's not fast, he doesn't play LW, he give the puck away too much, etc. He doesn't fit Green's style at all. Eriksson has no downside besides his contract.

Jan. 10, 2019 at 2:44 a.m.

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Canucks1

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Was yes. Now? Eriksson is much better. Kesler was a Selke winner, that doesn’t mean **** right now. Most gms contract aside would take Loui without a doubt imo

Jan. 10, 2019 at 5:12 a.m.

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: Canucks1

Was yes. Now? Eriksson is much better. Kesler was a Selke winner, that doesn’t mean **** right now. Most gms contract aside would take Loui without a doubt imo

Backes draws more d-zone starts and has a better oiSV%, but Loui is better defensively? Wow lol, I can't even take you serious because the average fan could tell Backes is better, not only defensively but overall at this point in their careers.

Loui is a soft offensively declining winger. Backes is still plays a heavy two-way game and is a leader in the locker room and on the ice. Not to mention Backes also can play center/wing, which is a premium on own.

Jan. 10, 2019 at 10:20 p.m.

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Canucks1

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Can’t take someone who uses oiSV% with defensive zone starts as his stat to determine who is better defensively. Lmao.

Jan. 11, 2019 at 1:53 a.m.

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: Canucks1

Can’t take someone who uses oiSV% with defensive zone starts as his stat to determine who is better defensively. Lmao.

Take someone what?

If your going to try and insult me, at least finish the insult. You know what, never mind im just going put you on ther ignore list. Its clear in these few post of yours that you don't really bring much to the table, so it's not like I'd be missing anything.

Jan. 11, 2019 at 4:38 p.m.

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Canucks1

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Thank God.

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