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DriveFor25

Created by: mattice
Initial Creation Date: Jan 16, 2019
Published: Jan 16, 2019 at 5:35
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Tried to get some Top line scoring in Duchene and Tarasenko while keeping Domi and Drouin to keep our top 6 speedy/scoring. Traded an average prospect and a 3rd line center as kotkaniemi can take that role over danualt. we Needed to get a good top 4 d man in hamonic. No problem with our defense producing offense so i wanted a shut down d man on the left side with petry. Needed a 4th line C to kill pentalies with experience, Brian Boyle fits the job perefect.
Trades
MTL
  1. Hamonic, Travis
CGY
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. McCarron, Michael
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  4. 2019 6th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
  2. 2020 4th round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Hudon, Charles
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (MTL)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (SJS)
OTT
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Fleury, Cale
  3. Ouellet, Xavier
  4. 2019 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2020 4th round pick (WPG)
MTL
  1. Boyle, Brian
  2. 2019 6th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Peca, Matthew
  2. Vejdemo, Lukas
  3. 2019 5th round pick (CHI)
MTL
  1. Duclair, Anthony
  2. 2019 7th round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. 2019 4th round pick (CGY)
  2. 2019 5th round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Max Pacioretty: $450,000 (10%)
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
2019
SJS
MTL
MTL
NJD
WPG
CBJ
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$75,360,119$0$2,682,500$4,139,881

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 3
OTT
Duchene, Matt
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,500,000
RW
UFA - 5
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 5
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
CBJ
Duclair, Anthony
$650,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Byron, Paul
$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
MTL
Armia, Joel
$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$839,166
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NJD
Boyle, Brian
$2,550,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Chaput, Michael
$675,000
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
CGY
Hamonic, Travis
$3,857,143
RD
UFA - 2
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Niemi, Antti
$950,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Benn, Jordie
$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tarasenko, V.
Domi, M.
Gallagher, B.
Weber, S.
Drouin, J.
Power Play 2
Armia, J.
Duchene, M.
Kotkaniemi, J.
Petry, J.
Mete, V.
Penalty Kill 1
Boyle, B.
Byron, P.
Kulak, B.
Weber, S.
Penalty Kill 2
Shaw, A.
Gallagher, B.
Hamonic, T.
Petry, J.

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Jan 16, 2019 at 5:41
#1
palhal
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That Calgary trade....two minors leaguers and big cap hit for Hamonic??????
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Jan 16, 2019 at 5:49
#2
RoadRunner72
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The package for Tarasenko should be more valuable than the one for Duchene. Duchene is going to be UFA, and Senko is under contract for 5 years. Blues will be looking for much more than your offer.

Also I think Calgary paid the Islanders a 1st and two 2nds for Hamonic less than 2 years ago. So they'll definitely want more.
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Jan 16, 2019 at 5:50
#3
mattice
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Edited Jan 16, 2019 at 6:09
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Jan 16, 2019 at 5:56
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mattice
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Edited Jan 16, 2019 at 6:11
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Jan 16, 2019 at 6:07
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mattice
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Jan 16, 2019 at 6:09
#6
mattice
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Quoting: palhal
That Calgary trade....two minors leaguers and big cap hit for Hamonic??????

Karl Alzner salary was suppose to be retained 15%. McCarron is a 25th overall pick which hasn't turned out but with a change in scenarios he could turn out. Alzner was a stud shut down d-man in washington but doesnt seem to play like that in MTL. With a second round pick..... I could be dreaming but hey!
Jan 16, 2019 at 6:10
#7
mattice
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Quoting: RoadRunner72
The package for Tarasenko should be more valuable than the one for Duchene. Duchene is going to be UFA, and Senko is under contract for 5 years. Blues will be looking for much more than your offer.

Also I think Calgary paid the Islanders a 1st and two 2nds for Hamonic less than 2 years ago. So they'll definitely want more.


I gave more "ready" players to STL because they arent in the rebuilding stage as ottawa is. I gave ottawa a decent prospect, a young 2/3 line defensive center and a 1st (for rebuilding purposes) as STL i gave a top 1/2 left wing scorer, 3/4 line youngster who can crack the 2nd line soon and a 2nd round draft pick. I could've sweated the pot a bit on tarasenko but he is n the block and hasnt being playing to his "All-Star" self as of late.

Travis hamonic has played 112 games with calgary getting 23 points and being a -2 so i believe is value has went down a bit. Also the flames over paid for him at the time.
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Jan 16, 2019 at 7:30
#8
Gofnut999
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Edited Jan 16, 2019 at 7:47
These are all really lopsided in favor Montreal with no chance at all of being accepted.

Flames even if you retain in Alzner there is still no value there. It’s a 2nd, a bust. and dead weight. They’d be better telling you to keep the rest just give us the 2nd. And he’s worth more than a 2nd.

Blues you start with a 1st and either Suzuki or Poehling or don’t bother.

Sens is the closest. 1st, Danaeult, Fleury might be close. Remove the rest.

Boyle is worth a 3rd Duclair a 2nd, a bunch of stiffs and bad picks won’t cut it

This is the stereotypical “I want something for nothing” post
Jan 16, 2019 at 7:47
#9
Poehling
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Quoting: Gofnut999
These are all really lopsided in favor Montreal with no chance at all of being accepted.

Flames even if you retain in Alzner there is still no value there. It’s a 2nd, a bust. and dead weight. They’d be better telling you to keep the rest just give us the 2nd. And he’s worth more than a 2nd.

Blues you start with a 1st and either Suzuki or Poehling or don’t bother.

Sens is the closest. 1st, Danaeult, Fleury might be close. Remove the rest.

Boyle is worth a 3rd Duclair a 2nd, a bunch of stuffs and bad picks won’t cut it

This is the stereotypical “I want something for nothing” post


Duclair worth nothing & impossible MTL try to get him. They don’t want Duclair
Jan 16, 2019 at 7:57
#10
jpsnow13
Dumb trades are easy
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You are trading roster guys with term for UFAs. Meaning you could be left empty handed July first. Also you can just keep you current roster, wait for july first and add thoses players by overbidding.

And Tarasenko would cost SOOOO much more (at least 2 more 1st rounders).

And Calgary is looking to add talent to win the cup, not make a step back for a 2nd round and garbage. Yes, McCarron is garbage.

Erase and try again.
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Jan 16, 2019 at 8:32
#11
Gofnut999
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Quoting: Poehling
Duclair worth nothing & impossible MTL try to get him. They don’t want Duclair


On pace for 20 goals. That is not worthless.
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Jan 17, 2019 at 8:50
#12
mattice
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Quoting: Poehling
Duclair worth nothing & impossible MTL try to get him. They don’t want Duclair


2015 world juniors him and max domi together were good. Duclair is from quebec so being close to home can give motivation to play.
Jan 17, 2019 at 8:52
#13
mattice
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Quoting: Gofnut999
These are all really lopsided in favor Montreal with no chance at all of being accepted.

Flames even if you retain in Alzner there is still no value there. It’s a 2nd, a bust. and dead weight. They’d be better telling you to keep the rest just give us the 2nd. And he’s worth more than a 2nd.

Blues you start with a 1st and either Suzuki or Poehling or don’t bother.

Sens is the closest. 1st, Danaeult, Fleury might be close. Remove the rest.

Boyle is worth a 3rd Duclair a 2nd, a bunch of stiffs and bad picks won’t cut it

This is the stereotypical “I want something for nothing” post


I hope you know but hamonic is not a all-star defenceman....
Jan 17, 2019 at 8:55
#14
Gofnut999
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Edited Jan 17, 2019 at 9:13
Quoting: jakemattice
I hope you know but hamonic is not a all-star defenceman....


Did not say he was. Still a high end 2nd pairing type. Worth a 2nd and good prospect. At minimum.

If we are going to play i hope you know....in the description you said you wanted him to be a shutdown left defenseman...i hope you know he is a right defenseman. And a bonus...i hope you know Flames will be buyers not sellers.
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:11
#15
Poehling
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Quoting: jakemattice
2015 world juniors him and max domi together were good. Duclair is from quebec so being close to home can give motivation to play.


Duclair was free agent & Bergevin didn’t even contact is agent
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:15
#16
mattice
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Did not say he was. Still a high end 2nd pairing type. Worth a 2nd and good prospect. At minimum.

If we are gouing to play i hope you know....in the description you said you wanted him to be a shutdown left defenseman...i hope you know e he is a right defenseman.


Yea i realized that after lmao, but alzner can replace his spot as a top 4 - top 6 defense man if he decides to show up in Calgary, mccaron could considered a bust but has been playing good as of late. A 2nd and a 6th, I could do a 3rd but I dont think hamonic is worth as much as you think as he is, -2 in his two years in calgary.....
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:17
#17
mattice
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Quoting: Poehling
Duclair was free agent & Bergevin didn’t even contact is agent


Things could change...... Hes cheap, hes french and hes a 3rd line forward. Bergavins favourite! Never know what could happen...
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:18
#18
Gofnut999
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Quoting: jakemattice
Yea i realized that after lmao, but alzner can replace his spot as a top 4 - top 6 defense man if he decides to show up in Calgary, mccaron could considered a bust but has been playing good as of late. A 2nd and a 6th, I could do a 3rd but I dont think hamonic is worth as much as you think as he is, -2 in his two years in calgary.....


Erik Karlsson was -25 last year. So does he suck? Its a worthless stat.
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:18
#19
Poehling
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Quoting: jakemattice
Things could change...... Hes cheap, hes french and hes a 3rd line forward. Bergavins favourite! Never know what could happen...


Bergevin want some attitude and Duclair attitude’s not good
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:20
#20
mattice
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Erik Karlsson was -25 last year. So does he suck? Its a worthless stat.


Erik Karlsson is a 4th forward on the ice plus hes was on a ****ty team...
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:21
#21
mattice
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Quoting: Poehling
Bergevin want some attitude and Duclair attitude’s not good


worth a shot for a year, never know what him and domi can whip up...
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:25
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Gofnut999
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Quoting: jakemattice
Erik Karlsson is a 4th forward on the ice plus hes was on a ****ty team...


Thats the point. +/- is completely driven by what team you play for. Oliver Ekman-Larssen is -89 is for his career. Anton Stralman is +68. Who would you rather have. The only thing that stat is good for is comparing players from same team in same season. Otherwise it is useless. It’s about perpective. Hamonic was -9 last year. TJ Brodie was -16. Giordano was 0.
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:30
#23
mattice
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Thats the point. +/- is completely driven by what team you play for. Oliver Ekman-Larssen is -89 is for his career. Anton Stralman is +68. Who would you rather have. The only thing that stat is good for is comparing players from same team in same season. Otherwise it is useless. It’s about perpective. Hamonic was -9 last year. TJ Brodie was -16. Giordano was 0.


exactly hamonic is on a solid team and is -2. How do you define a good defensive d-man by stats then?
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:35
#24
Gofnut999
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Quoting: jakemattice
exactly hamonic is on a solid team and is -2. How do you define a good defensive d-man by stats then?


He is +7 this year. Same as Hanifan.

They had not been a solid team til this year.
Jan 17, 2019 at 9:37
#25
mattice
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Quoting: Gofnut999
He is +7 this year. Same as Hanifan.

They had not been a solid team til this year.


they battled for a playoff spot last year i think that’s a solid team.
 
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