Quoting: Spanky227
You are asking for too much of an overpayment-- this is fair for just Namestnikov. Adding a 1st or Jost is overkill, even with Buch and McQuaid. Rangers would be dumb to give up on Buch rn. With Hayes/Zucc leaving at the deadline, put him back with Kreider and Zibanejad instead of Howden and McLeod.
One deal I would do in a heartbeat is:
Namestnikov, Kreider, Hayes, Zucc, Rangers 2nd rounder for Makar, Bowers, Ott 1st.
Namestnikov>Bowers (by a little bit)
Hayes (extended)+Zucc+2nd+offset of above trade = Ottawa's 1st
Kreider=Makar (at least this has been the reported prospect the rangers require to let go of kreider)
Don't make me laugh.
First of all, why Makar keeps showing up in these conversations is beyond me. Second, you're overvaluing Sakic as a GM. He can declare with the straightest of faces he is not breaking up the future for the present..he knows damn well HE will need to give to get.
So, let's take a look at the potential assets to move: Wilson? Soderberg? Nemeth?? Giving them away brings WHAT back? Thirds for the forwards and a fifth at best for the defenseman. So, where is the asset that is a match for Namestnikov..and I mean, just Namestnikov? It has to be either in the minors or in future assets.
Quoting: Spanky227
You are asking for too much of an overpayment-- this is fair for just Namestnikov. Adding a 1st or Jost is overkill, even with Buch and McQuaid. Rangers would be dumb to give up on Buch rn. With Hayes/Zucc leaving at the deadline, put him back with Kreider and Zibanejad instead of Howden and McLeod.
One deal I would do in a heartbeat is:
Namestnikov, Kreider, Hayes, Zucc, Rangers 2nd rounder for Makar, Bowers, Ott 1st.
Namestnikov>Bowers (by a little bit)
Hayes (extended)+Zucc+2nd+offset of above trade = Ottawa's 1st
Kreider=Makar (at least this has been the reported prospect the rangers require to let go of kreider)
Once again we have someone trying to move Kreider, when the Rangers are going to need a foundation player to rebuild from, alongside of Zibanejad to support the incoming players in transition. Not the right move. Zucc would make sense if Colorado was breaking up their top line; wanted to add him to MacKinnon and Rantanen, while dropping Landeskog to the second line to increase offense on that line without giving up assets.
According to this,
Quoting: Foppa21
Makar and the Ottawa 1st aren't going anywhere.
that will never happen; so, no Zuccarello. So, that's that.
In the buyer's market, declaring the unwillingness to part with assets (picks and/or prospects) is ALWAYS either a smokescreen for something big, or for trying to get more from a particular team.
Quoting: Liam2497
As a rangers fan I think they would also be interested in AJ Greer
So if a Namestnikov for Greer deal could be struck, the scouts whom have been spotted at Colorado Eagles games could be lining this up for Joe Sakic and Jeff Gorton. But this deal seems [to me] to be the base for a larger deal.. especially if the Avalanche are looking to fill in numerous spots; this is why I proposed the larger deal.