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Guessing Keiths Trade Value

Created by: TavaresIsALeaf
Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2019
Published: Feb. 1, 2019
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https://www.secondcityhockey.com/platform/amp/2019/1/31/18206317/blackhawks-ask-duncan-keith-about-trade-nhl-trade-rumors-deadline-2019?utm_campaign=secondcityhockey&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

*This is not an offer, just checking his value*
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$79,500,000$85,555,406$2,550,000$4,550,000-$6,055,406
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$10,277,778$10,277,778
RW
UFA - 6
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 5

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Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:41 a.m.
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lol huh?
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
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Keith would cost one of Liljgren/Sandin/Kapanen + one of Moore/Johnsson + 1st. No way hes worth more because of his age.
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Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
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lol huh?


Reported yesterday that Hawks will ask Keith if he wants to get traded by the deadline.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
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I wouldn't say its that high. You could probably package one of Kapanen/Sandin with a couple of picks and maybe a roster player and I imagine that would be enough.
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Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:43 a.m.
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Is Chicago retaining a decade off of Keith's career? Only way it makes sense for Toronto
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:43 a.m.
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Keith would cost one of Liljgren/Sandin/Kapanen + one of Moore/Johnsson + 1st. No way hes worth more because of his age.


He is very underrated on a crappy team. He might be one of the best defenseman in the league still
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: TavaresIsALeaf
Reported yesterday that Hawks will ask Keith if he wants to get traded by the deadline.


Yeah, but a 35 y/o defenseman on a big decline on a contract until he's 40 isn't going to get Marner. Probably Johnsson + mid prospect + a mix of picks or something.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:44 a.m.
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He is very underrated on a crappy team. He might be one of the best defenseman in the league still


Nah he isn't. He isn't even the best defenseman on their team.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:44 a.m.
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Chicago runs with it.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:45 a.m.
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Quoting: BluesGetTheCup
Yeah, but a 35 y/o defenseman on a big decline on a contract until he's 40 isn't going to get Marner. Probably Johnsson + mid prospect + a mix of picks or something.


Probably gonna get more than the return from the Muzzin trade
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:46 a.m.
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Chicago runs with it.


Guess you didn't read the description that this is just a guess at his value and not an actual offer
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: csick
Keith would cost one of Liljgren/Sandin/Kapanen + one of Moore/Johnsson + 1st. No way hes worth more because of his age.


I really wouldn’t even go that far, he’s declining and still has 4 years on his contract. Wouldn’t be giving anything special. Certainly doesn’t fit our cap or team.
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Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:48 a.m.
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Guess you didn't read the description that this is just a guess at his value and not an actual offer


They would still run with it. Keith is 35 and declining no way he is worth that much and toronto won't pay that for him either.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:49 a.m.
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you know this is 2019 not 2009 right???
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Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:55 a.m.
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Quoting: TavaresIsALeaf
Probably gonna get more than the return from the Muzzin trade


Why? Muzzin is younger, in his prime and playing better. that extra term hurts his value.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 11:04 a.m.
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Leafs don't have cap for him this year and the future years. Probably no team contending does. He's virtually untradable partly due to his NTC.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 11:24 a.m.
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If everyone is being honest here, there is no way a guy at Keith's age, with his term, in this era, would ever cost a huge return. Muzzin's deal was as big as it was due to one more year on an affordable contract. And even at that it was perhaps a bit high. Kieth would bring back a 1st and maybe a higher level prospect only if Chicago retained half his salary which would protect the team acquiring him in case he starts to decline in the near future.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 11:27 a.m.
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Keith would cost one of Liljgren/Sandin/Kapanen + one of Moore/Johnsson + 1st. No way hes worth more because of his age.


I pray to the hockey gods above that we could get this for Keith. Realistically I think the price would be high just because he's a legend in Chicago but I think the Hawks would want Sandin or Kapanen plus the first, or maybe a second.
Feb. 1, 2019 at 11:38 a.m.
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I pray to the hockey gods above that we could get this for Keith. Realistically I think the price would be high just because he's a legend in Chicago but I think the Hawks would want Sandin or Kapanen plus the first, or maybe a second.


Just don't know his value cause he is under rated and never gets talked about
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Feb. 1, 2019 at 12:03 p.m.
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Just don't know his value cause he is under rated and never gets talked about


Yeah he's definitely an interesting case because he's 35 and still has a lot of term on his deal. I think he would be great on a contending team if he wasn't forced to be the number 1 defensemen. If he can play a normal top 4 role he would be a great addition to any team.
 
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