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Tdl 19

Created by: Shibbal18
Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 12, 2019
Published: Feb. 12, 2019
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Trades
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PIT
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
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3.
BUF
  1. 2019 5th round pick (EDM)
4.
BUF
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (DAL)
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2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$67,383,649$0$4,520,000$12,116,351
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,415,000$2,415,000
C
UFA - 5
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$874,125$874,125
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
UFA - 2
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
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$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
C, LW
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,142,857$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Feb. 12, 2019 at 3:41 p.m.
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the pens would never do that, at least this season. Maybe when they are actually rebuilding they would but even then maybe not.
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 3:42 p.m.
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oh god thats terrible
Feb. 12, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.
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oh god thats terrible


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Ew


Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 3:59 p.m.
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the pens would never do that, at least this season. Maybe when they are actually rebuilding they would but even then maybe not.


They wont get this high of an offer for Malkin after this season
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:01 p.m.
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Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment


Malkin is a top 3 center, skinner has a career -95 +/- malkin has a +74, malkin has a better career corsi, age doesn't matter to the pens. Plus malkin is a center which is more valuable than a winner. Just stop
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:01 p.m.
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They wont get this high of an offer for Malkin after this season


Which doesn't matter cause he's not even available
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:02 p.m.
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Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment


You should take a look at their contract situation, and career performance.


Or watch a game
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:05 p.m.
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You should take a look at their contract situation, and career performance.


Or watch a game


Apparently only this season matters. He never touches the fact that skinner is a free agent after this year lmao
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:05 p.m.
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Even if Pittsburgh was dumb enough to do this trade, why would we trade him to washington for that?
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:06 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Malkin is a top 3 center, skinner has a career -95 +/- malkin has a +74, malkin has a better career corsi, age doesn't matter to the pens. Plus malkin is a center which is more valuable than a winner. Just stop


Im talking about about this year and yes it matters, Malkin is trending. Your letting nostalgia blind you
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
You should take a look at their contract situation, and career performance.


Or watch a game
yeah stats are complete fantasy and only manipulated by whom ever calls for them. They can resign Skinner for the same or less money.
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:09 p.m.
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Im talking about about this year and yes it matters, Malkin is trending. Your letting nostalgia blind you


Ok makes sense. Well by your logic the sabres should trade Mittelstadt for Dominik Simon. Simon has a better +/- and has 1 less goal but 3 more assists. And simon has a way better corsi
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
yeah stats are complete fantasy and only manipulated by whom ever calls for them. They can resign Skinner for the same or less money.


They can sign him? How do you know?
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:12 p.m.
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They can sign him? How do you know?


I assume thier owner has money and a pen available in his office, so im sure they have that capability
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:14 p.m.
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Ok makes sense. Well by your logic the sabres should trade Mittelstadt for Dominik Simon. Simon has a better +/- and has 1 less goal but 3 more assists. And simon has a way better corsi


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Ok makes sense. Well by your logic the sabres should trade Mittelstadt for Dominik Simon. Simon has a better +/- and has 1 less goal but 3 more assists. And simon has a way better corsi


He also has infinetly better teammates and more ice time, your ignoring context to make a half assed arguement
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:14 p.m.
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I assume thier owner has money and a pen available in his office, so im sure they have that capability


What if he doesn’t want to sign? Here is what you aren’t understanding. They have Malkin locked up, they have no guarantees that they could lock up skinner. Even if skinner was the superior player, which is laughable, Malkin would still have more value.

I assume the Sabre’s owner has money and a pen, why haven’t they signed skinner?
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:15 p.m.
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LMAO this is so bad. Malkin is still a top 4 C in the league. Give us Mittelstadt, Luukonen and 2 1sts.
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
He also has infinetly better teammates and more ice time, your ignoring context to make a half assed arguement


Actually, they play about the same amount of time. And he's played a lot of time in the bottom 6 and 4th line as well as with crosby. You're the one making half assed arguments
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:19 p.m.
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Skinner has 2x as many goals, Malkin's +/- has completely reversed, Skinner dominates Malkin with advanced stats, and Skinner is 6 years younger. Its an overpayment


Skinner benefitted from a high PDO while playing with EIchel and Reinhart. Hence the goal burst. Malkin has had injury problems while having a revolving door of linemates.

+/- doesn't mean anything.

Skinner doesn't dominate with advanced stats, and if you think he does, you may just be reffering to this years numbers, so you're subjecting yourself to recency bias.

Skinner is a pending UFA while Malkin is under contract for 3 years.

And no, this is not an overpayment, you're way off on this one.
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:21 p.m.
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Actually, they play about the same amount of time. And he's played a lot of time in the bottom 6 and 4th line as well as with crosby. You're the one making half assed arguments

Mittelstadt has more assists, and clearly does more with less possession
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:22 p.m.
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Skinner benefitted from a high PDO while playing with EIchel and Reinhart. Hence the goal burst. Malkin has had injury problems while having a revolving door of linemates.

+/- doesn't mean anything.

Skinner doesn't dominate with advanced stats, and if you think he does, you may just be reffering to this years numbers, so you're subjecting yourself to recency bias.

Skinner is a pending UFA while Malkin is under contract for 3 years.

And no, this is not an overpayment, you're way off on this one.

I am referrijg to this years numbers becquse last year means nothing when your player is 32
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:23 p.m.
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Mittelstadt has more assists, and clearly does more with less possession


Last time I checked, 14 assists from Simon is more than 11 assists from Mittelstadt. Plus Mittelstadt is a center and Simon is a winger, which means Mittelstadt possesses the puck more
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Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:35 p.m.
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I am referrijg to this years numbers becquse last year means nothing when your player is 32


You can't fully justify this trade (or any for that matter) if you're only looking at this year's numbers. As I said before, recency bias, 1 year of overperforming doesn't make Skinner than a bonafide top 3 C in Malkin
Feb. 12, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.
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never in a thousand years do the pens accept that
Feb. 12, 2019 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Skinner benefitted from a high PDO while playing with EIchel and Reinhart. Hence the goal burst. Malkin has had injury problems while having a revolving door of linemates.

+/- doesn't mean anything.

Skinner doesn't dominate with advanced stats, and if you think he does, you may just be reffering to this years numbers, so you're subjecting yourself to recency bias.

Skinner is a pending UFA while Malkin is under contract for 3 years.

And no, this is not an overpayment, you're way off on this one.


malkin could split in two and I wouldn't trade one of the halves of malkin for skinner......
 
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