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Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 18, 2019
Published: Feb. 18, 2019
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Apart from what the Canadiens should or shouldn't do, are these trades something the other teams would consider. Your thoughts, what modifications would you do for each trade?
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Burakovsky, André
  2. Jaskin, Dmitrij
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (WSH)
2.
DAL
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (WSH)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. Lucic, Milan ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
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2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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23$83,000,000$70,430,476$0$5,182,500$12,569,524
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 3
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:09 p.m.
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I’d be ecstatic if the Stars could get a 2nd and 3rd for Nichuskin.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:15 p.m.
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I’d be ecstatic if the Stars could get a 2nd and 3rd for Nichuskin.


I guess I'll modify it to just a 3rd rnd pick lol
Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:18 p.m.
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The Edmonton trade looks good to me you might be overpaying some what. Edmonton is not only getting wing for McDavid but your also taking the contract they have been trying to get rid of all season.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:24 p.m.
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For the Edmonton trade add Klefbom and 1 mill for Lucic and swap Drouin for Domi and a 2019 first.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:25 p.m.
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The Edmonton trade looks good to me you might be overpaying some what. Edmonton is not only getting wing for McDavid but your also taking the contract they have been trying to get rid of all season.


What more would EDM be willing to throw in IYO?
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Eclipze
For the Edmonton trade add Klefbom and 1 mill for Lucic and swap Drouin for Domi and a 2019 first.


So Domi and a 2019 1st for Klefbom, Puljujarvi, Lucic (1 mill retained) and 3 2nds?
Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:48 p.m.
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the edm and cbj trades are BAD for mtl.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 7:56 p.m.
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What hell is this.
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 8:05 p.m.
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the edm and cbj trades are BAD for mtl.


Don't be shy, explain
Feb. 18, 2019 at 8:07 p.m.
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What hell is this.


For starters it's a team made up forwards with the majority being at least 6'2 and 200 lbs.
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 8:15 p.m.
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Don't be shy, explain


firstly the drouin trade. ur giving up a potential 70 point winger who is only 23 and is on an amazing contract for a 4th liner in luci with a horrendous contract, a potential 2-3 line winger and a couple of picks. edm takes that trade any time of the day. in fact edm should be adding in that ttrade. with drouin u know ur getting a bonafide 60 point winger. on top of that is potential. puj barely has 30 career nhl points in 2 seasons. yeah he has potential, but wwayyy to much risk involved. edm needs to add a top 4 D in that. lucic's contract is horrendous. even if we buy him, ownership need incentive to buy out a guy and pay him millions. doesnt work.
as for the cbj trade, imo u just traded 2 of the more consistent players on this team away in gally and byron. yes both of tehm arent big, but neither of them get beat 1v1 becauase they're relentless on the puck. they dont take a single shift off. wennberg is great, so is anderson, but not at the expense of the heart and soul of the team. on top of that, both of those guys have amazing contracts. with anderson comes a tough negotation in a year i believe. i get the idea behind both trades, u get bigger, but ur getting slower then as well. maybe u trade gally down the road, bu t as of now, ur trading ur not trading ur only 30 goal scorer
as for the tatar trade, pretty sure u can get wayy more for a 26 year old fiesty 50 point winger on a good contract with term. pretty sure teams like the jets or preds will overpay for him.
idk about nichuskhin. he was pretty hyped so not sure what went wrong there
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 8:42 p.m.
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firstly the drouin trade. ur giving up a potential 70 point winger who is only 23 and is on an amazing contract for a 4th liner in luci with a horrendous contract, a potential 2-3 line winger and a couple of picks. edm takes that trade any time of the day. in fact edm should be adding in that ttrade. with drouin u know ur getting a bonafide 60 point winger. on top of that is potential. puj barely has 30 career nhl points in 2 seasons. yeah he has potential, but wwayyy to much risk involved. edm needs to add a top 4 D in that. lucic's contract is horrendous. even if we buy him, ownership need incentive to buy out a guy and pay him millions. doesnt work.
as for the cbj trade, imo u just traded 2 of the more consistent players on this team away in gally and byron. yes both of tehm arent big, but neither of them get beat 1v1 becauase they're relentless on the puck. they dont take a single shift off. wennberg is great, so is anderson, but not at the expense of the heart and soul of the team. on top of that, both of those guys have amazing contracts. with anderson comes a tough negotation in a year i believe. i get the idea behind both trades, u get bigger, but ur getting slower then as well. maybe u trade gally down the road, bu t as of now, ur trading ur not trading ur only 30 goal scorer
as for the tatar trade, pretty sure u can get wayy more for a 26 year old fiesty 50 point winger on a good contract with term. pretty sure teams like the jets or preds will overpay for him.
idk about nichuskhin. he was pretty hyped so not sure what went wrong there


No doubt theres risk in every trade, especially the EDM trade. Unfortunately I don't have the same hope for Drouin as you do, but if EDM believes what you believe then perhaps you're right that I could get more in return. Personally when I look at players the same age as Drouin or even younger like Barkov, Raantanen, Aho, Tkatchuk, Boeser and Domi just to name a few, I don't want to play the waiting game with Drouin for when/if he pans out. His value is still high and could fetch a good return from EDM since they badly want someone who could potentially compliment McDavid. The idea/hope with Puljujarvi is to revive him with a change of scenery and by slotting him next to his country man Kotkaniemi, obviously I'll be crossing my fingers.

The CBJ trade, Anderson's heart is definetly as big as Gallagher's IMO. And if he can keep putting up 20-25 goals yearly I'd be happy with that, I doubt he'd break the bank when it's time to resign him. Byron although fast, his age is the reason I'd give him up in order to get bigger and younger. BTW i think you're underestimating the speed of the guys I acquired (apart from Lucic). The other dimension I added is more toughness (Lucic, Anderson) to go along with Domi, Shaw, Deslauriers.

Really appreaciate the time you took sharing your views Kudos!
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 9:01 p.m.
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You had Puljujarvi at "Lucic."

Drouin for three 2nds, kind of defeats the purpose of trading three good veterans for Wennberg, though, doesn't it? I mean, it's quicker and easier than finding the right team to give you a 2nd for each, but Edmonton would take one with term, Toronto would take one without term.... Dallas would take one if they end up with cap space after moving Nichushkin.

Might be simpler to do a one for one, if you could imagine the Habs moving on from Drouin, which would shock me, since he's one of the better young French-Canadian forwards in the game.
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 9:30 p.m.
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You had Puljujarvi at "Lucic."

Drouin for three 2nds, kind of defeats the purpose of trading three good veterans for Wennberg, though, doesn't it? I mean, it's quicker and easier than finding the right team to give you a 2nd for each, but Edmonton would take one with term, Toronto would take one without term.... Dallas would take one if they end up with cap space after moving Nichushkin.

Might be simpler to do a one for one, if you could imagine the Habs moving on from Drouin, which would shock me, since he's one of the better young French-Canadian forwards in the game.


I'm pretty sure 1 or 2 of the 2nds are payment for taking Lucic's contract. $6m a season for the next 4 seasons after this one. He's 30 and his stats have only gone down since signing in Edmonton.
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 9:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
You had Puljujarvi at "Lucic."

Drouin for three 2nds, kind of defeats the purpose of trading three good veterans for Wennberg, though, doesn't it? I mean, it's quicker and easier than finding the right team to give you a 2nd for each, but Edmonton would take one with term, Toronto would take one without term.... Dallas would take one if they end up with cap space after moving Nichushkin.

Might be simpler to do a one for one, if you could imagine the Habs moving on from Drouin, which would shock me, since he's one of the better young French-Canadian forwards in the game.


Lol hell ya it's easier. My main concern is if the CBJ trade make any sense for them. And the only thing I keep coming back to is, do they resent the Wennberg contract enough to take on my offer?
Feb. 18, 2019 at 9:32 p.m.
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I'm pretty sure 1 or 2 of the 2nds are payment for taking Lucic's contract. $6m a season for the next 4 seasons after this one. He's 30 and his stats have only gone down since signing in Edmonton.


You got it. 2 2nds for Lucic and a 2nd+Puljujarvi for Drouin
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 9:50 p.m.
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What more would EDM be willing to throw in IYO?


I was referring to Edmonton might think they are overpaying be over paying. In a different tread some Edmonton fans think Puljujärvi' value is the same as the day they drafted him. At 20 you can't say he's a bust yet but thinking his value is still that high isn't realistic.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:08 p.m.
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I was referring to Edmonton might think they are overpaying be over paying. In a different tread some Edmonton fans think Puljujärvi' value is the same as the day they drafted him. At 20 you can't say he's a bust yet but thinking his value is still that high isn't realistic.


At this point Drouin for Puljujarvi and a 2nd is something they should take and run with
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:35 p.m.
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Lol hell ya it's easier. My main concern is if the CBJ trade make any sense for them. And the only thing I keep coming back to is, do they resent the Wennberg contract enough to take on my offer?


Nah. CBJ fans have tried to convince me Wennberg=Backstrom. He doesn't, but they're going to keep him.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.
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At this point Drouin for Puljujarvi and a 2nd is something they should take and run with


I agree and you're taking Lucic for two 2nd its a no brainer.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:51 p.m.
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Nah. CBJ fans have tried to convince me Wennberg=Backstrom. He doesn't, but they're going to keep him.


I wouldn't be so sure actually. And I'm only basing it on the rumors that CBJ wants to sign Duchene on July 1st. Would they actually have Wennberg and Dubinski as their #3-4 centers at the salary they're making? No dice
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Feb. 19, 2019 at 6:29 a.m.
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ED accepts, though only to be rid of Lucic.
Feb. 19, 2019 at 7:29 a.m.
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ED accepts, though only to be rid of Lucic.


Ofcourse they do
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Feb. 19, 2019 at 8:26 a.m.
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I think long term, Burakovsky should be better than Tatar in a couple years, but if Washington wants to win right now, and is considering trading Burakovsky for a rental, the two remaining years of term on Tatar's contract match up with Ovechkin's contract and give the Caps secondary scoring for a little while.

Tatar's not having quite as amazing of a season as Nyquist or Dzingel, who are each rumored to the Caps, presumably each for Burakovsky, but if the trade price is lower, and the term remaining is higher, then I think Tatar presents better total value. That is, the Caps could, optimistically, get ten playoff goals this Spring out of Nyquist or Dzingel, and maybe only eight out of Tatar, but with two more Springs, that puts Tatar at 24, and saves the team the trouble of having any cap space to talk about free agents this summer. smile
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Feb. 19, 2019 at 8:29 a.m.
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That Drouin for Puljujärvi, Lucic, and three 2nds is possibly the most 1 sided trade that I have ever seen on here. Definitely top 5. Edmonton would not let you hang up before finalizing that trade.
 
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