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Buffalo Vancouver fans Would you

Created by: SammyT_51
Initial Creation Date: Mar 30, 2019
Published: Mar 30, 2019 at 10:26 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Räsänen, Eemeli3$925,000
Korshkov, Yegor2$925,000
Gordeev, Fedor3$925,000
McGregor, Ryan3$925,000
Joshua, Dakota2$925,000
Laaksonen, Oskari3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Baptiste, Nicholas1$700,000
Carcone, Michael1$700,000
Gagné, Gabriel1$700,000
Johnsson, Andreas2$3,000,000
Kapanen, Kasperi2$3,000,000
Marner, Mitchell6$10,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Ferland, Micheal3$3,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Turkulainen, Jerry2$925,000
Howdeshell, Keeghan3$925,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,225,000 retained)
VAN
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Laaksonen, Oskari [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Kadri, Nazem
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
TOR
TOR
TOR
STL
TOR
TOR
DAL
2020
TOR
BUF
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
EDM
SJS
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,000,000$83,990,532$0$482,500-$990,532

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
Ferland, Micheal
$3,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Bracco, Jeremy
$842,500
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
$775,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Marleau, Patrick
$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Marleau, Patrick
$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
$2,225,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Sparks, Garret
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Borgman, Andreas
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Rosén, Calle
$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Bracco, J.
Tavares, J.
Ferland, M.
Marner, M.
Rielly, M.
Power Play 2
Kapanen, K.
Matthews, A.
Johnsson, A.
Nylander, W.
Liljegren, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Hyman, Z.
Ferland, M.
Muzzin, J.
Dermott, T.
Penalty Kill 2
Marleau, P.
Moore, T.
Borgman, A.
Tanev, C.

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Mar 30, 2019 at 10:50
#1
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Yes from buffalo
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Mar 30, 2019 at 11:03
#2
I like Eich
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Laaksonen is a very good RHD prospect id be sad to lose, but Kadri is a great center we could use.
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Mar 30, 2019 at 11:05
#3
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I think that’s fair value for Vancouver.
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Mar 30, 2019 at 11:08
#4
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Rosen will be on the roster borgman won’t
Mar 30, 2019 at 11:13
#5
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: mikeyscav
Laaksonen is a very good RHD prospect id be sad to lose, but Kadri is a great center we could use.


I did it mostly because of Laaksonen who imo is close to NHL ready if not ready.

Quoting: PJoseph13
Rosen will be on the roster borgman won’t


I mean.. its possible but until im proven otherwise (AHL doesnt count, TJ Brennan was great Dman there) I think Borgman might be closer to what Toronto needs on third pairing with Liljegren. Borgman is physical good defensively. Rosen is offensively good but eh defensively.. I see Borgman as better option.
Mar 30, 2019 at 11:25
#6
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Tbh wasn't expecting the trade to be fair. Pleasantly surprised.
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Mar 30, 2019 at 11:26
#7
I like Eich
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I did it mostly because of Laaksonen who imo is close to NHL ready if not ready.



I mean.. its possible but until im proven otherwise (AHL doesnt count, TJ Brennan was great Dman there) I think Borgman might be closer to what Toronto needs on third pairing with Liljegren. Borgman is physical good defensively. Rosen is offensively good but eh defensively.. I see Borgman as better option.


Reports are Laaksonen is planning on staying in Finland next season as well. He will still at least be not in NA for next season, but who knows how quickly he can acclimate to the NA game! Buffalo has Pilut and Olofsson who have transitioned beautifully
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Mar 30, 2019 at 11:29
#8
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: wojme
Tbh wasn't expecting the trade to be fair. Pleasantly surprised.


You likely expected Kadri for Reinhart, Risto and Eichel all retained which would be normal with most of the Leafs fan base tears of joy
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Mar 30, 2019 at 11:31
#9
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: mikeyscav
Reports are Laaksonen is planning on staying in Finland next season as well. He will still at least be not in NA for next season, but who knows how quickly he can acclimate to the NA game! Buffalo has Pilut and Olofsson who have transitioned beautifully


Yes, forgot to undone the ELC signing. Maybe he would sign and be loaned like Jesper Lindgren. But I like his game a lot. Speedy defenceman with nice defensive game and solid offensive touch that can provide defensive work needed. I think he would acclimate very fast and well. Its much less complicated these days tbh
Mar 30, 2019 at 11:36
#10
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I doubt you get Vancouver to retain plus taking Zaitsev back. Take the retention out and you're a lot closer to a deal.

& Why are you dumping Kadri like that? I get that Laaksonen is a fairly decent prospect, but for what Naz is you can get a better package of closer ready prospects or young guys. Toronto's RHD prospects are fine with Liljjegren, Duszak, Hollowell, Lindgren, etc. but they need NHL players to help them win now. Dumping Kadri for a prospect and a pick seems useless if that prospect won't be NHL ready for 2-3 years
Mar 30, 2019 at 11:38
#11
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I mean.. its possible but until im proven otherwise (AHL doesnt count, TJ Brennan was great Dman there) I think Borgman might be closer to what Toronto needs on third pairing with Liljegren. Borgman is physical good defensively. Rosen is offensively good but eh defensively.. I see Borgman as better option.


Rosen will be on this team before Borgman is again. Borgman has struggled in the AHL this year. Injuries played a part in that, but even when he was healthy he struggled. Rosen has excelled and they're saying he's close to what Gardiner is. Babcock has publicly said he wants Rosen up with the big club. Rosen is the better option and will be up sooner than Borgman
Mar 30, 2019 at 11:52
#12
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: jonesryan
Rosen will be on this team before Borgman is again. Borgman has struggled in the AHL this year. Injuries played a part in that, but even when he was healthy he struggled. Rosen has excelled and they're saying he's close to what Gardiner is. Babcock has publicly said he wants Rosen up with the big club. Rosen is the better option and will be up sooner than Borgman


I mean I hope you are right, Im just saying that I would pump on break regarding his game. Dont expect much. I like him, I hope he stays and succeeds. Borgman.. I like more to be honest but just a personal point of view. Borgman when playing in NHL he was good, I liked his defensive play and physicality. Either one of them makes it on bottom pair and Im happy with both.
Mar 30, 2019 at 12:02
#13
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Its fair value, but I wouldn't do because I am a huge fan of Laaksonen, and top RHD are so hard to find.
Mar 30, 2019 at 1:28
#14
nhl fans
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vancouver say yes . but hope it could be 2019 2nd


how about this

Van : tanev 50% retained, 2020 2nd
Tor: Brown,Zaitsev, 20192nd
Mar 30, 2019 at 1:31
#15
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: CEN
vancouver say yes . but hope it could be 2019 2nd


how about this

Van : tanev 50% retained, 2020 2nd
Tor: Brown,Zaitsev, 20192nd


Thats certainly a good offer but I dont think Leafs would part with 2nd. But 2020 draft is deeper meaning that some guys from 2nd round in 2020 would be in 1st round this year so Id say yes
Mar 30, 2019 at 1:54
#16
JJ_91
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VAN says no. We dont need another big contract on our hands. Our forward group is crowded right now so we dont need Brown. Adding in a second only makes it look better, but we still reject.
Mar 30, 2019 at 2:14
#17
Shibbal18
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What would Toronto fans think of that Buffalo deal
Mar 30, 2019 at 2:17
#18
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: Shibbal18
What would Toronto fans think of that Buffalo deal


I dont think they would agree with it. Me being Leafs fan and kinda knowledgable I know what Laaksonen is capable of so I know what I want for Naz, he is great guy, great player but getting 2nd rounder (or maybe late 1st from BUF) along Laaksonen would be satisfying return imo. I tried to make it as fair as possible.
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Mar 30, 2019 at 6:38
#19
Lafreniere to NYR
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Laaksonen is insane plus a high pick but Kadri slotting in being Eichel and in front Mittelstadt would be very nice tbh.
 
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