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The most expensive fourth line in the history of the NHL LOL

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Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 23, 2019
Published: Apr. 5, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$1,600,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
5$4,000,000
5$1,600,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
2$4,500,000
8$8,000,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Benning, Matthew
  2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2021 4th round pick (EDM)
2.
BUF
  1. Granlund, Markus [RFA Rights]
VAN
  1. Scandella, Marco ($1,000,000 retained)
3.
BUF
  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
4.
BUF
  1. Marleau, Patrick
  2. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$72,054,167$0$3,700,000$10,445,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
RW
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,387,500$3,387,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 1

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Apr. 5, 2019 at 1:00 p.m.
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What in tarnation
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Marleau's not moving so take Lucic in the Risto trade. Risto in exchange to Lucic+Benning+1st+1st lol.
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Apr. 5, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.
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This team is atrocious
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Apr. 5, 2019 at 1:03 p.m.
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lacks victor olofsson
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Apr. 5, 2019 at 1:03 p.m.
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lacks victor olofsson


Edit: didnt mean to post that twice lol
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Apr. 5, 2019 at 1:22 p.m.
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No one is commenting on the fourth line, signing Williams, Skinner's contract, the Granlund trade, I am so disappointed cry .


Quoting: BurgerBoss
Marleau's not moving so take Lucic in the Risto trade. Risto in exchange to Lucic+Benning+1st+1st lol.

OMW I would think that would be great. You do see that both Callahan's and Marleau's contracts expire at the end of the season. TBH, i really do not like Lucic now. I admired hard playing scoring forwards, but he is just a big baby who disgraced the hand shake ceremony after the Bruins lost to the Canadians.
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
This team is atrocious

Yup you are correct, I never meant the team to be good. I never thought the current team was a playoff team. I said from the beginning of the year, Thompson and Mittelstadt should have played the entire year in Rochester, In hind site, I wish management had kept Pilut there all year as well. The three of them would have been exposed to a winning atmosphere instead of this current losing cloud the team has developed. BTW did you notice the team has seven first round picks in the next 3 years, Maybe the team gets good quicker and stays good longer rather than trying to sign free agents.
Quoting: crazyjasonhockey
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lacks victor olofsson

OMW, I never saw him play before he was called up but he is certainly turning my head. I do not know why he was not a top 2 or top 3 AHL scorer. I have to congratulate DATM for picking him in the 7th round.
0/10 meaning you really hated this post? You do see it was a bit of a joke?
Apr. 5, 2019 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
This team is atrocious


yet still better than the team is today...
so is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Apr. 5, 2019 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: DustyDitch
yet still better than the team is today...
so is that a good thing or a bad thing?


Quoting: DustyDitch
yet still better than the team is today...
so is that a good thing or a bad thing?


I am so glad you noticed that. Adding Williams and Granlund to the top 6 is much better than the current team. Marleau, Williams and Callahan add playoff experience and I hope locker room energy that seems to be missing from the current team. I never thought the current team was a playoff team, nor did I think they would finish with less than 80 points. But as you pointed out, this line up is better than this years team and it has 7 first round picks over the next 3 years.
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Apr. 5, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: DustyDitch
yet still better than the team is today...
so is that a good thing or a bad thing?


It must be exhausting trolling this much.
Apr. 5, 2019 at 5:06 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It must be exhausting trolling this much.


What is your point? Are you saying DD is a troll? What does it mean to call some one a troll? Are you disappointed that DD is making 2 valid points? Perhaps you are telling us that you are tired? I just do not understand your point.
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Apr. 5, 2019 at 11:52 p.m.
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Analytics are good
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
This team is atrocious


Funny that, because this team is better than this year's Sabres
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Apr. 6, 2019 at 10:42 a.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Funny that, because this team is better than this year's Sabres


I disagree. The bottom six is somehow worse and the 3rd defensive pairing would be a bottom pairing in the AHL.

Resigning Larsson is a joke, as is playing him on the 3rd line

No pilut, no olafsson is a joke.
Apr. 7, 2019 at 12:27 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It must be exhausting trolling this much.


Is it really trolling if what I said is true?
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Apr. 7, 2019 at 9:06 p.m.
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Quoting: DustyDitch
Is it really trolling if what I said is true?


I normally ignore anything littlejerryseinfeld says. He never agrees with any thing I post, offers little evidence to support his position, typically will reply with cryptic comments that can be misinterpreted and IMO really does not understand the finer points of the game. If you noticed he never replied to my comment to his original comment.
Second, I sort of thought that this post had run its course and I made a couple of changes for my own amusement. I bought out both Callahan and Marleau and presumed they could then sign with whatever team wanted then including Tampa and Toronto at a reduced cap hit. Sort of the same move WSH and COL did with Orpick.
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Apr. 8, 2019 at 8:45 a.m.
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Quoting: GMTD
I normally ignore anything littlejerryseinfeld says. He never agrees with any thing I post, offers little evidence to support his position, typically will reply with cryptic comments that can be misinterpreted and IMO really does not understand the finer points of the game. If you noticed he never replied to my comment to his original comment.
Second, I sort of thought that this post had run its course and I made a couple of changes for my own amusement. I bought out both Callahan and Marleau and presumed they could then sign with whatever team wanted then including Tampa and Toronto at a reduced cap hit. Sort of the same move WSH and COL did with Orpick.


i've noticed and that is why i normally bust his stones almost immediately. there are a couple guys on here that have severe Buffalo goggles and it is comical watching what they suggest and write.

I was being serious when i said that the team you assembled is better on paper than the current team and I understand why you loaded the 4th line the way you did (jokingly). But honestly if you had Marleau as the 2c and moved Mitts down to 3c, it gives the team "some" depth that is currently non-existent. i like Eichel, he is an elite talent, but i don't think Eichel is a leader. buffalo hasn't had a true leader in years and adding guys that have been there would be beneficial to the team, regardless of age or skill level. guys like Williams, Marleau and Cally are valuable, especially on short term contracts.

buffalo is unfortunately in a position where they have to develop within and through trades because not many FA's are itching to go play there, especially since they have been awful for the last decade. with a core of Eichel, Dahlin, Reinhart, Montour, Mitts, McCabe, Risto and Ulmark - the team could be in good shape if they play their cards right, find the right trades and draft correctly. historically, buffalo hasn't had any success in drafts, which is why they are in the position they are in now.
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Apr. 8, 2019 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: DustyDitch
i've noticed and that is why i normally bust his stones almost immediately. there are a couple guys on here that have severe Buffalo goggles and it is comical watching what they suggest and write.

I was being serious when i said that the team you assembled is better on paper than the current team and I understand why you loaded the 4th line the way you did (jokingly). But honestly if you had Marleau as the 2c and moved Mitts down to 3c, it gives the team "some" depth that is currently non-existent. i like Eichel, he is an elite talent, but i don't think Eichel is a leader. buffalo hasn't had a true leader in years and adding guys that have been there would be beneficial to the team, regardless of age or skill level. guys like Williams, Marleau and Cally are valuable, especially on short term contracts.

buffalo is unfortunately in a position where they have to develop within and through trades because not many FA's are itching to go play there, especially since they have been awful for the last decade. with a core of Eichel, Dahlin, Reinhart, Montour, Mitts, McCabe, Risto and Ulmark - the team could be in good shape if they play their cards right, find the right trades and draft correctly. historically, buffalo hasn't had any success in drafts, which is why they are in the position they are in now.


Many people complain about the Leaf fans over rating their players, for the most part the Leaf fans are much more knowledgeable and fairer than Sabre fans on this site.

I adjusted the line as you proposed, and as you correctly presumed, I was trying to make satirical comment about the fourth line, but Marleau between Reinhart and Sheary could be the settling presence to bring out the best of both of the wingers. With Williams on the top line, he has the experience to get the most our of Jack, making that line much better. Then with Callahan on the fourth line adding that veteran leadership to an already solid shutdown duo, could only improve Larsson and Girgensons. An additional comment, I get to watch those two every game and while they do not have the scoring touch, they control the puck and start in the defensive zone nearly 85% of the time. Speaking of leadership, no one, absolutely not one sports writer has commented on how the team fell apart after Berglund left (read what a local Buffalo writer had to say https://buffalonews.com/2018/12/18/patrik-berglund-buffalo-sabres-nhl/). The team was 20-10-5 (104 pts if projected over the entire season) before he left and 13-29-5 after. So for nearly half of the season they were 10 games over then the second half of the season they were 16 under. So as you said, maybe with the proper on ice leaders the team could actually compete with the Bruins, Leafs and other teams. I also think Benning and Hunwick while not top 4 NHL defensemen are not AHL either. Benning actually has a better +/- than Nurse, Larsson or Klefbom with a decent Corsi.

Things may be changing about playing in Buffalo. Hutton signed a very fair contract (I actually thought he may sign for more elsewhere, he may have picked Buffalo because he knew he would be the starting GK), and Skinner waived his NTC to play with Buffalo. I think Jeff came to Buffalo to play with Jack. Eichel seems to make any one who plays with him perform better.

Lastly, I am still shocked that no one commented on the trades. OMW, if Betterall could pull them off, he should get manager of the year. As you said a better team, with veteran leadership, rekindle the winning attitude and all on short term contracts as you correctly observed. Oh yes and seven first round draft picks over the next 3 seasons.
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