2 year fix part 1

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

You are absolutely right, luckily Manning RS lasts only a single season. If a Lucic trade presented itself (that doesnt cost EDM the moon) you make that before any other move it could be that important to get him off the roster

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:02 p.m.

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Quoting: RWellington

I guess the thing that would concern me is what if a team like say, Arizona calls you up at the deadline and says that they want a guy with stanley cup experience as they're such a young team, and they're comfortable in the playoff picture, and if they can get Lucic at 4 million along with a guy off the edmonton roster that's basically a rental, and the oilers can't because they have too many retained salary deals, that would stink.

very slim chance something like that would happen, but idk, i would keep it in mind.

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:06 p.m.

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

Totally understand your logic and i agree.
My assumption with Lucic either moving or not moving is that decision will be made and completed this offseason. I dont know if you watched his exit interview with the media from last week but there is a sense on my behalf that he would waive his NMC. If EDM got the sense a team like AZ was interested they would be best to just bury Manning in the AHL.

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:11 p.m.

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What you could do to solve the problems stated above is undo the Sekera trade. You still have cap room, he's still serviceable in a third pair role and has the highest hockey IQ on that backend. If the Oilers do make the playoffs, he could be the calming presence on that backend.

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:19 p.m.

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Quoting: ConnorsCousin

Right, the chances of EDM dealing all 3 of Sekera, Lucic & Russell in a single season is highly unlikely given the fact you likely retain salary on all 3.
If EDM does manage to find a dance partner in moving Lucic and they have already dealt Russell the organizational pressure to continue to free up cap space by trading Sekera would likely be removed.
However one detractor of keeping Sekera (same goes for Russell) is it is blocking the natural progression of the D looking to make the jump. EDM has a log jam of D in the AHL and likely have to graduate 1-2 this season assuming Bouchard & Samorukov transition to the AHL next season

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:26 p.m.

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Everyone keeps adding wingers. And they do need wingers. But no one is addressing the D. Part of reason Oilers can't score is Oilers D cant pass the puck. EVen nurse & Klefbom who get assists simply move it to Leon and 97 and sit back and collect the points. If they don't pass to those 2....nothing happens. How many times do you see Russel just rim it or bounce it off the glass and out? How many times do Benning & Larsson play catch while the D sets up their D. There's no transition game. There's no quick outs. Working Bear & Jones into the lineup might help a bit, but need 2 x top 4 D that excel at transition and moving the puck. IMHO

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:37 p.m.

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Quoting: RWellington

I think the prospects will show that they are worth it. My suggestion is run a D core of: Klefbom/Larsson, Nurse/(Stralman/RHD puck mover), Sekera/Benning for the season. When injuries come up, let one of Jones or Bear see some time. While they were here, they showed flashes of greatness but not consistent enough.

Give Jones, Bear, Bouchard, Lagesson, and Samorukov another year to settle down in the AHL and prove that last year was not a fluke. Let those guys play top minutes in the AHL rather than 3rd pair minutes in the NHL. By March next year or even the start of 2020 season, that's when they should be ready for full time NHL duties. That's the point where its best to trade Sekera. He'll have one year left and by then the d - core could be Klefbom/Larsson, Nurse/Bouchard, Jones/Bear, Benning as 7th D.

I say this because should one of them fail in that position, we won't have anybody to cover them. It's better that they are the replacement for this season than them getting their confidence pummeled by getting walked in the NHL daily.

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:39 p.m.

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Quoting: Trade97soIcancheerforanotherteam

You aren't wrong, the D's lack of transition ability (whether that is passing or skating) is a weak point for EDM.
The hope is that Bear & Jones can shoulder NHL minutes (include Persson in that mix too) because they will provide EDM cheap options while they are against the cap.
I would love EDM to address the D by trading for Spurgeon/Parayko/Faulk however it is difficult as their trade chips are limited as is their flexibility. The only UFA option i would sign is Stralman because he would be $3-4M per and 1-3 years however he probably goes to an immediate contender. Myers will get too much money and term for my liking. And the other options arent worth my time (Erik Karlsson excluded but not a chance in hell)

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:42 p.m.

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1.5 for Chiasson lmao

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:43 p.m.

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Quoting: ConnorsCousin

Totally fair, I had the Sekera deal occuring at the TDL as EDM will need a transition period where the young guys show their worth. If they falter then that deal cannot be made.
My guess is Jones & Persson are ready and start with the big club whereas Bear waits for a call up.

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:45 p.m.

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Quoting: leafsfan1967

1.5 for Chiasson lmao

And your point being ???
EDM needs to set an internal limit on Chaisson, if he wants more he may find that in free agency.
EDM needs to learn its lesson on re-signing UFAs (Russell contract)

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:46 p.m.

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Quoting: RWellington

And your point being ???
EDM needs to set an internal limit on Chaisson, if he wants more he may find that in free agency.
EDM needs to learn its lesson on re-signing UFAs (Russell contract)

look at Chiasson's numbers... worth at least 2.5-3 mil. He will def be a free agent

Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.

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Quoting: RWellington

And your point being ???
EDM needs to set an internal limit on Chaisson, if he wants more he may find that in free agency.
EDM needs to learn its lesson on re-signing UFAs (Russell contract)

Agreed, Russell wouldn't be over paid if he got 3 x 3M with M-NTC rather than a 4 x 4M NMC. Remember this was after he helped EDM make the playoffs which boosted his value at the time. Prior to signing, he was waiting for a job until August and only signed a 1 year 3.1M. We should've rewarded him with term but no raise in pay. And 4 years was way too long.

Chiasson's ceiling should be 2M. Anything more than that on a 3 year deal is an overpay. If I was GM, ideally he should get around 1.7M for 1 year but since its FA, he'll probably get 2 years by 1.75M (which isn't bad). I can see the max being 3 years x 2M (I wouldn't do that if I'm the Oilers.)

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:52 p.m.

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Quoting: leafsfan1967

look at Chiasson's numbers... worth at least 2.5-3 mil. He will def be a free agent

Chiasson started off real hot and then cooled down toward the end of the year. He's a proven streaky scorer which is why he's been on several PTOs and one year deals. Somebody gives him 2.5-3 on a 3 year deal and they'll probably regret it at the end of year 1.

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.

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Quoting: leafsfan1967

look at Chiasson's numbers... worth at least 2.5-3 mil. He will def be a free agent

You are aware Chaisson has played more than 1 season in the NHL correct?
Came to EDM on a PTO ... If he wants $2M let him walk

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:06 p.m.

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You are aware Chaisson has played more than 1 season in the NHL correct?
Came to EDM on a PTO ... If he wants $2M let him walk

You two can enjoy sucking for years to come. Edmonton is a joke, and will always be one. laughing stock of the NHL

Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:08 p.m.

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Quoting: leafsfan1967

You two can enjoy sucking for years to come. Edmonton is a joke, and will always be one. laughing stock of the NHL

yikes, you just got walked using logic and you turn to that negativity as a defense scheme. Nice

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.

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Quoting: leafsfan1967

You two can enjoy sucking for years to come. Edmonton is a joke, and will always be one. laughing stock of the NHL

All this because we would prefer our "joke" of a team not sign a player for $3M dollars??

Enjoy losing to Boston again

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.

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Quoting: RWellington

All this because we would prefer our "joke" of a team not sign a player for $3M dollars??

Enjoy losing to Boston again

enjoy missing playoffs and falling in the draft... LMAO #RebuildFor20Years

Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:22 p.m.

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Quoting: leafsfan1967

enjoy missing playoffs and falling in the draft... LMAO #RebuildFor20Years

Outside the fact you are just a troll, did you actually have anything worth while to say?

You want to overpay Chaisson thats fine but EDM cannot afford to pay him $3M based on their cap structure.
Do you mean "failing" in the draft ? or "falling" ?

Oilers may rebuild for 20 years but atleast we've won a cup (5x) since 1967. When there was only 6 teams.... TOR has not won a cup in the modern era hahahah

Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:23 p.m.

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Quoting: RWellington

Hmmm, people on this site love to throw the word "troll"... am I not stating the facts?

Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.

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Quoting: leafsfan1967

Hmmm, people on this site love to throw the word "troll"... am I not stating the facts?

What fact did you present?

Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.

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Quoting: RWellington

What fact did you present?

Oilers are a joke... have been rebuilding for what seems to be an eternity? Oilers suck and they have the best player in the world... how does that even happen.

Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:31 p.m.

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