Believe me, we want it even less.....

Good luck finding D man boyz ! Adam Larsson vs Matthews ?

Last fall, there were a lot of Nylander/Weber proposals. As a Leaf fan, I certainly didn't want it as Nylander had more upside, was going to sign for MUCH contract and Weber was injured too often.
With Nylander's contract now......Weber's doesn't look tha badt. With Nylander's play this year, I'll take Weber. Not saying I would make trade now, but looking back....maybe it was best shot for the Leafs in 2018/2019.
Imagine if the Leafs had made that trade last September and Weber didn't get injured, the Leafs might be playing now.

In my books till Marleau on payroll, we will have to suck it one more time next Season. And then the window for Cup will open. Plenty of Cap space to acquire top RHD, Sandin and Liljegren filling 3rd Pair, with Offence set for next 5 years ( hopefully Dubarelli will manage to squeeze thru all three RFAs this offseason ) ......

Wow, just wow man.

nylander can get ya a dman but why a old broken one.get an old stable one like suter

I agree on all accounts apart from the sentiment that Johnsson and Kap are necessary. They are good but entirely replaceable

yeah just imagine

Weber's contract could be the worst in hockey

You know my stand...aging Kadri before youngsters on the career rise.....

I'd be right there with you if we had a centre ready to move up higher in the lineup. Brooks could be that guy but he needs another year in the minors I think.

With above said ( not being in position to hunt Cup next Season ) i would defenitelly perform an experiment with :

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Moore - Matthews - Nylander
Johnsson - Petan - Kapanen

Lets see if those third liners are ready for a big contract ( while not riding on Matthews wings ). Would be two birds with one stone....Nylander and Matthews would push each other with stats, in the face of all gloaters trying to trade Nylander for bag of potatoes and it would be a "prove your contract claims" season for Kapanen and Johnsson, so if they can deliver with mediocre C between them.

Holy macaroni is it the same Palhal that was furiously agaisnt that idea last year ?? Big lol ! No thanks we're good !

In other words , apparently Babcock luvs old broken horses .

Thanks for remembering. Seems like 99% of Leaf fans were against the trade and 99% of Habs fans were for it. This summer the Leafs have to get rid of about 7m in cap, and even if Weber was a Leaf (and not Nylander) the cap situation would have been the same or maybe even worse. Though still playing in mid May would have eased the pain.

Petan is a huge drop off from Kadri, I am not sure he is am NHL centre, looks better suited to the wing. I don't doubt that Johnsson and Kapanen won't produce 20 goals and 40 points without a top centre, it's probably just one of them that does it but I would be worried this line would get steam rolled on the cycle.

Well...at the end of the day, Marleau can finally jump in as 3#C instead Petan, tho i know its commonly known he claims he doesnt want to play one.

And isni good enough to do so either.

Ok, i got it...Kadri will stay Leaf for lifetime.....

No there is a need there, I don't think Kadri will last past his contract but now isn't the time to move him.

Its interesting cause you arent consistant here.

- In some other thread today you were claiming its statistically proven players reach their peak at 24y....tho you will dump Kapanen and Johnsson before aging Kadri

-again in other thread you are claiming kids in defence should get a chance and hopefully they will pan out, yet again Petan isnt good enough to be tried at 3#C, neither Marleau

- Kapanen and Johnsson are replacable, but Kadri isnt

As i said above, 2019/2020 isnt the Season to be considered Cup hunting one. So why not start ditching C depth for some D.

This season Kadri show first signs of should i say decline, he put cherry on the top with ( another ) Playoffs fiasco so at the moment his stakes are falling instead of rising. Again its 50/50 wheater he will get back on track next Season or he will stumble even more in his performance, but with 29y i suspect it will be later. At the end he will just walk like JvR and Gardiner, cause it will be to late to get anything back for him.

The moment Pacioretti was traded i started to advocate Kadri should be gone while comparably the return would be pretty much the same and i received a lot of flak cause of it ( insert RHD instead of Tatar )...at TDL i was simulating Pesce <---> Kadri + 1st 2020, which again would be doable back then in terms of fair return i believe.

But again....as for every aspect there are always two camps, im in the one whos trading Kadri and keeping kids.

Well Kadri isn't old, I wouldn't want him in his 30's but he'll still be the best option available for 3c unless Petan or Brooks blows the doors off the barn. That's why I wouldn't trade him over Johnsson and Kap. I think the chances of Korshkov, Mickheyev, or Bracco or even guys like Marchment or Engvall are a lot closer to Kap or Johnsson than any other centre currently on the roster is. Unless you move Nylander into 3 c but then you are taking Nylander away from Matthews I think both players are best with each other.

Imagine if the Leafs had actually agreed to the Pietrangelo trade this past off-season. They didn't, yet again over-valuing their players. His 11 points in the playoffs likely help Toronto get past the first round.

At the same time there is probably a way to get someone back who can grow more into the role of 3c. I definitely wouldn't he against the right move. I am just not sure I see the right move out there. I don't think you are going to get Manson or Spurgeon or something good. I think you are going to get someone who's not really much better than Zaitsev but fans are a little happier because Pysyk shoots right or something dumb like that.

We're gonna hang to it then ! Happy holidays !