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big MTL trade idea

Created by: newman23
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: May 24, 2019
Published: May 24, 2019
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Extension would have to be in place for Gustafsson and Hawks would have to be drafting Byram but both teams benefit. Chicago could probably retain on Saad too if that becomes a sticking point
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  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Gallagher, Brendan
  3. 2019 5th round pick (CHI)
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  1. 2020 4th round pick (CHI)
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May 24, 2019 at 5:51 p.m.
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This is interesting. What would the extension for gus be?
May 24, 2019 at 5:54 p.m.
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still think chi has to put in more becuase of the cap dump in saad. probably a 2020 1st instead of a 2nd and maybe a b level prospect.
May 24, 2019 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
This is interesting. What would the extension for gus be?


Probably something in the neighborhood of 4x4
May 24, 2019 at 5:57 p.m.
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still think chi has to put in more becuase of the cap dump in saad. probably a 2020 1st instead of a 2nd and maybe a b level prospect.


Hawks could also comfortably retain 1-2m on saad if necessary. rationale was gus= drouin, saad+beaudin+2nd=gally+5th
May 24, 2019 at 6:00 p.m.
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It’s an interesting idea. I just can’t see Gallagher being moved.
May 24, 2019 at 6:01 p.m.
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I cant see montreal trade drouin AND gally. They needed scorers, and you traded the few players that can score. I like the return tho, but it would take more thant this imo to get drouin and gally.
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May 24, 2019 at 6:02 p.m.
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Hell no
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May 24, 2019 at 6:07 p.m.
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Quoting: newman23
Hawks could also comfortably retain 1-2m on saad if necessary. rationale was gus= drouin, saad+beaudin+2nd=gally+5th


yes i got that my issue was i do not see saad+beaudin+2nd=gally+5th

saad+beaudin+1st+ B-level=gally+5th

having a propect and a 2nd with a cap dump doesnt justify moving gally. if you add the fist rounder high potential to be an NHL player plus a flyer on a blevel might be more more likely.
retaining salary might be ok
May 24, 2019 at 6:12 p.m.
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I cant see montreal trade drouin AND gally. They needed scorers, and you traded the few players that can score. I like the return tho, but it would take more thant this imo to get drouin and gally.


fwiw saad and gus combined point totals were higher than drouin and gallaghers, 107 to 105. But I agree its probably unlikely mtl parts with gallagher, real coach's player. Just think it makes sense needs wise, habs have a lot of high end forward prospects that could be pushing for ice time this year. Adding Beaudin to the D corp doesnt hurt either.
May 24, 2019 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: newman23
fwiw saad and gus combined point totals were higher than drouin and gallaghers, 107 to 105. But I agree its probably unlikely mtl parts with gallagher, real coach's player. Just think it makes sense needs wise, habs have a lot of high end forward prospects that could be pushing for ice time this year. Adding Beaudin to the D corp doesnt hurt either.


Gustafsson had ONE good season, he isnt worth like a 1st pairing D, even a legit top 4 Dman. Saad will not fit in CJ systems. Gallagher is 30 goals scorers at 3.75M & a player with heart. Drouin could reach 70+ points in the NHL.
May 24, 2019 at 8:47 p.m.
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Edited May 24, 2019 at 8:53 p.m.
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still think chi has to put in more becuase of the cap dump in saad. probably a 2020 1st instead of a 2nd and maybe a b level prospect.


How exactly is Saad a cap dump?

Is Drouin a 3rd OA pick bust?
May 24, 2019 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Gustafsson had ONE good season, he isnt worth like a 1st pairing D, even a legit top 4 Dman. Saad will not fit in CJ systems. Gallagher is 30 goals scorers at 3.75M & a player with heart. Drouin could reach 70+ points in the NHL.


Drouin...
2018 - 2019 = 18g, 53 points
2017 - 2018 = 13g, 46 points

That's on a top line?

Maybe MTL fans should just hope Drouin can light the lamp for 20 goals next season instead of thinking he's going to put up 70points.
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May 24, 2019 at 10:57 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Drouin...
2018 - 2019 = 18g, 53 points
2017 - 2018 = 13g, 46 points

That's on a top line?

Maybe MTL fans should just hope Drouin can light the lamp for 20 goals next season instead of thinking he's going to put up 70points.


He puts 50 points in 60 games & did sweet ****all the 20 matchs remaining
May 24, 2019 at 11:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
He puts 50 points in 60 games & did sweet ****all the 20 matchs remaining


Last 20 games he had 7 points out of 53 on the season...consistency is a problem for him and has plagued him. Whether he becomes a constant 20g/50p is TBD...even with 5 seasons in the league I think he can, but it would be stretch to think he can put up over 70 points based on what he's shown so far.

This trade is pretty fair, but as a Hawks fan I would say no just don't like the fit.
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May 25, 2019 at 10:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Gustafsson had ONE good season, he isnt worth like a 1st pairing D, even a legit top 4 Dman. Saad will not fit in CJ systems. Gallagher is 30 goals scorers at 3.75M & a player with heart. Drouin could reach 70+ points in the NHL.


Gus has had one ELITE offensive season, Drouin has had none. My moneys on Gus to hit 70pts well before Drouin does. A team who wants a game changing pp qb is going to be willing to pay a fair price for that. Cant speak to Juliens system but mtl fans would love saads game. Plays a fast in your face style and can also hit 30 goals playing on a top line. And his advanced numbers are insanely good so you know he can drive his own line like he did in chi last year.
May 27, 2019 at 6:47 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
How exactly is Saad a cap dump?

Is Drouin a 3rd OA pick bust?


the fact that no NHl team at the start of last season would even entertain taking all 6 Mill of his contract.
if he is moved it is because CHI retains a portion or they add a sweetner.
He is not a 6 Mill player.
May 27, 2019 at 7:03 p.m.
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the fact that no NHl team at the start of last season would even entertain taking all 6 Mill of his contract.
if he is moved it is because CHI retains a portion or they add a sweetner.
He is not a 6 Mill player.


I'm sorry, but Saad wasn't on the trade block and Carolina DID offer Faulk for Saad straight up and Hawks said no.
Why is he not a $6M player? Obviously Carolina thinks so.

Is Drouin a 3rd OA bust?
 
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