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Nylander

Created by: bos426
Initial Creation Date: Aug 18, 2019
Published: Aug 20, 2019 at 6:41
Team: 2019-20 San Jose Sharks
Team Explanation
If Mitch Marner gets an offer sheet at 12.5 mil and the Leafs match they would likely need to move Nylander. How far off am I from a legit trade? We need more right-handed forwards but is he evan worth it?
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Thornton, Joe1$2,000,000
Trades
SJS
  1. 2020 6th round pick (STL)
OTT
  1. Karlsson, Melker
SJS
  1. 2020 5th round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Dell, Aaron
  2. 2020 6th round pick (STL)
SJS
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Marincin, Martin
TOR
  1. Dillon, Brenden ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Blichfeld, Joachim
  3. Roy, Jérémy
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (SJS)
  5. 2021 3rd round pick (SJS)
Buyouts
  • Paul Martin: $1,416,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Brenden Dillon: $1,500,000 (91.74%)
  • Brenden Dillon: $1,635,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PHI
OTT
SJS
CAR
PIT
WSH
2021
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
2022
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$83,133,116$660,750$0-$1,633,116

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
SJS
Meier, Timo
$6,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 4
SJS
Couture, Logan
$8,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 8
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
SJS
Kane, Evander
$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 6
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
$5,625,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
SJS
Labanc, Kevin
$1,000,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
SJS
Sörensen, Marcus
$1,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
Thornton, Joe
$2,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
SJS
Gambrell, Dylan
$700,000
C
RFA - 2
SJS
Goodrow, Barclay
$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
SJS
Suomela, Antti
$700,000
C
RFA - 1
SJS
Brodzinski, Jonny
$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
SJS
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
$7,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
$11,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
SJS
Jones, Martin
$5,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
SJS
Simek, Radim
$675,000
LD
UFA - 1
SJS
Burns, Brent
$8,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
SJS
Korenar, Josef
$723,333
G
RFA - 2
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
SJS
Heed, Tim
$960,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
SJS
Prout, Dalton
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
SJS
Radil, Lukas
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Nylander, W.
Hertl, T.
Meier, T.
Karlsson, E.
Burns, B.
Power Play 2
Kane, E.
Thornton, J.
Labanc, K.
Vlasic, M.
Heed, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Hertl, T.
Kane, E.
Vlasic, M.
Karlsson, E.
Penalty Kill 2
Goodrow, B.
Sörensen, M.
Simek, R.
Burns, B.

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Aug 20, 2019 at 6:46
#1
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This trade is very fair. However leafs fans will come in to yell at you very soon because they like Nylander. I think Johnson or Kapanen moving is more likely
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Aug 20, 2019 at 6:47
#2
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Value wise it's not bad, but the Leafs have no real reason to trade Nylander
Aug 20, 2019 at 6:48
#3
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
Value wise it's not bad, but the Leafs have no real reason to trade Nylander


Even if Marner gets offer sheeted?
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:05
#4
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Quoting: bos426
Even if Marner gets offer sheeted?


Depends on the amount. Leafs can match anything up to 10.55 million
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:07
#5
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Sorry, its not close. Blichfield and Roy are likely never going to play in the NHL. Go look at Cory Pronman's eval on the Sharks prospect pool on the Athletic. Dillon isn't valued as the 2nd LD for Toronto because of their depth on the left side. Besides, he's not going anywhere. The Sharks and DeBoer really really really like Dillon as a person and a player. The picks are whatever.
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:09
#6
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Quoting: icehawk2006
Sorry, its not close. Blichfield and Roy are likely never going to play in the NHL. Go look at Cory Pronman's eval on the Sharks prospect pool on the Athletic. Dillon isn't valued as the 2nd LD for Toronto because of their depth on the left side. Besides, he's not going anywhere. The Sharks and DeBoer really really really like Dillon as a person and a player. The picks are whatever.


Uh did you even read it. Blichfield is rated as a LEGIT NHL PROSPECT, and he says only positives about him and his domination of the WHL.
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:11
#7
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
Depends on the amount. Leafs can match anything up to 10.55 million


I heard it is supposed to be around 12.5 but who knows.
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:11
#8
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Quoting: bos426
I heard it is supposed to be around 12.5 but who knows.


That's an overpayment
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:23
#9
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Quoting: papishark
This trade is very fair. However leafs fans will come in to yell at you very soon because they like Nylander. I think Johnson or Kapanen moving is more likely


*Insert John Cena Are You Sure About That Meme*
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:31
#10
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Quoting: papishark
Uh did you even read it. Blichfield is rated as a LEGIT NHL PROSPECT, and he says only positives about him and his domination of the WHL.


Clam down its the WHL lol

They also have him ranked as their 21st best prospect just a year ago before his inflated season
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:31
#11
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Quoting: bos426
I heard it is supposed to be around 12.5 but who knows.


If so the leafs don't match and take the 4 1sts instead. Your trade proposal doesn't move the needle for the leafs as we are strong on lhd and aren't looking for futures. Also, we would move other players out before Nylander or to put it another way, we won't move Nylander to overpay Marner.
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:32
#12
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After Marner is signed, we would trade you Kapanen for Ryan Merkley and your 2021 first. Does that help?
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:34
#13
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
Value wise it's not bad, but the Leafs have no real reason to trade Nylander


Who would you rather have, Kevin Labanc or Dillon, Blichfeld and Roy?

Nylander >> Labanc
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:35
#14
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Quoting: bos426
Even if Marner gets offer sheeted?


He wont
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:38
#15
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Quoting: papishark
Uh did you even read it. Blichfield is rated as a LEGIT NHL PROSPECT, and he says only positives about him and his domination of the WHL.


Did you even read my post? I NEVER SAID PRONMAN SAID HE WAS BAD DID I. Uh, did you even read his article? He explicitly says LABEL DOESNT GUARANTEE THE ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING!

So, here's an idea, don't be a dick. Honestly, I was making an assessment, with no emotion whatsoever, and you come at me like a jackass. People like you are why I don't usually engage here. Its also why I blocked you on twitter, because your an ass. No I didn't read it, I just said go read it for no ****ing reason. I know he lists it him as a legit NHL prospect. He also lists how he's an overager, but says he still likes him. However, he doesn't go into detail on why he has reservations about an overager. Here is a ****ing clue for you. An overager's possibility of reach the NHL is very very low. They get people excited because they look really good in their overage year, as they should going up against 1st year jr players. That's why I said likely never makes the NHL. I don't agree with Pronman's labeling of Blichfield. I also wanted people to go read his comments and make an assessment themselves. Mine is that he's unlikely to make the NHL. So here is another clue, you dont trade a 70+ point scorer in his prime who you just signed a long term contract with, for a couple of prospects that probably don't pan out (even if Blichfield does, his ceiling is a third liner), a player your going to have to resign for more money than you're willing to pay that you don't need (Dillon), and a couple of low picks. So time to get a few ****ing clues and don't come back until you have them (so I am guessing thats never). And stop being a homer about players. Might as well just jackoff to them instead of come on here and be stupid.
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:39
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
After Marner is signed, we would trade you Kapanen for Ryan Merkley and your 2021 first. Does that help?


Absolutely not lol, top prospect and a first for a middle sixer?
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:40
#17
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
Clam down its the WHL lol

They also have him ranked as their 21st best prospect just a year ago before his inflated season


Exactly, I hate know it all's who come on here and dont have a dang clue. He's an overager. I really hate fans, and generally just dont get involved because they are freaking ridiculous.
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:42
#18
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Quoting: icehawk2006
Did you even read my post? I NEVER SAID PRONMAN SAID HE WAS BAD DID I. Uh, did you even read his article? He explicitly says LABEL DOESNT GUARANTEE THE ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING!

So, here's an idea, don't be a dick. Honestly, I was making an assessment, with no emotion whatsoever, and you come at me like a jackass. People like you are why I don't usually engage here. Its also why I blocked you on twitter, because your an ass. No I didn't read it, I just said go read it for no ****ing reason. I know he lists it him as a legit NHL prospect. He also lists how he's an overager, but says he still likes him. However, he doesn't go into detail on why he has reservations about an overager. Here is a ****ing clue for you. An overager's possibility of reach the NHL is very very low. They get people excited because they look really good in their overage year, as they should going up against 1st year jr players. That's why I said likely never makes the NHL. I don't agree with Pronman's labeling of Blichfield. I also wanted people to go read his comments and make an assessment themselves. Mine is that he's unlikely to make the NHL. So here is another clue, you dont trade a 70+ point scorer in his prime who you just signed a long term contract with, for a couple of prospects that probably don't pan out (even if Blichfield does, his ceiling is a third liner), a player your going to have to resign for more money than you're willing to pay that you don't need (Dillon), and a couple of low picks. So time to get a few ****ing clues and don't come back until you have them (so I am guessing thats never). And stop being a homer about players. Might as well just jackoff to them instead of come on here and be stupid.


Ok alot to break down here. You dont know the prospect, you claimed they were worthless and spoke on an article that said they werent. I only tried to correct you when you made a contradictory comment. I also dont have you on twitter and meant no harm in what I said. You obviously dont understand that sometimes people discussing a trade doesnt mean a personal attack on your so beloved maple leafs.
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:43
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Quoting: icehawk2006
Exactly, I hate know it all's who come on here and dont have a dang clue. He's an overager. I really hate fans, and generally just dont get involved because they are freaking ridiculous.


Yes, like yourself and the paragraph you left swearing because I told you our prospects werent worthless
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:44
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Quoting: icehawk2006
Exactly, I hate know it all's who come on here and dont have a dang clue. He's an overager. I really hate fans, and generally just dont get involved because they are freaking ridiculous.


people said the same thing with Durzi when the Leafs traded him for Muzzin. They were like he had the best D stats for Guelph! Yea hes an overager, he better have the best stats. THO i did like Durzi alot
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:46
#21
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Quoting: papishark
Ok alot to break down here. You dont know the prospect, you claimed they were worthless and spoke on an article that said they werent. I only tried to correct you when you made a contradictory comment. I also dont have you on twitter and meant no harm in what I said. You obviously dont understand that sometimes people discussing a trade doesnt mean a personal attack on your so beloved maple leafs.


As another Leafs fan, I am sorry for this out break from another Leafs fan, please accept one Patrick Marleau at a discounted rate at one year one million for this outbreak
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:49
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Quoting: papishark
Absolutely not lol, top prospect and a first for a middle sixer?


Ha ha ha. Did you look at the roster above? Kapanen would be your #2 RW above Gambrell, Brodzinksi and Goodrow.
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:52
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
As another Leafs fan, I am sorry for this out break from another Leafs fan, please accept one Patrick Marleau at a discounted rate at one year one million for this outbreak


I will take it! Thank you for being reasonable, im sorry you guys get a bad rep, not all of you are raging idiots like that guy.
Aug 20, 2019 at 7:53
#24
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Quoting: papishark
I will take it! Thank you for being reasonable, im sorry you guys get a bad rep, not all of you are raging idiots like that guy.


people get mad on the internet, what can you do
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Aug 20, 2019 at 7:53
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Ha ha ha. Did you look at the roster above? Kapanen would be your #2 RW above Gambrell, Brodzinksi and Goodrow.


Our lack of RW depth doesnt make Kapanen a better player than he is lol
 
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