Stone being resigned by Calgary is totally cap circumvention_ its all genius

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Created by: F50marco

Team: 2019-20 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 11, 2019

Published: Sep. 11, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I'm not even mad. Its actually super smart.

Free Agent Signings

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000
Stone, Michael	1	$700,000

Buyouts

Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
Michael Stone: $1,166,667
Michael Stone: $233,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
29	$81,500,000	$71,114,208	$0	$747,500	$10,385,792

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW UFA - 3	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 4	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 5
Lucic, Milan $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NTC UFA - 5	Bennett, Sam $2,550,000$2,550,000 C UFA - 2
Frolík, Michael $4,300,000$4,300,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek $3,125,000$3,125,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Czarnik, Austin $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1
	Jankowski, Mark $1,675,000$1,675,000 C, LW UFA - 1
Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000	Dubé, Dillon $778,333$778,333 ($182,500$182K) LW, RW, C RFA - 2	Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000
Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000	Quine, Alan $735,000$735,000 C UFA - 1	Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Giordano, Mark $3,375,000$3,375,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Brodie, TJ $4,650,400$4,650,400 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Rittich, David $1,375,000$1,375,000 G UFA - 2
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD UFA - 5	Hamonic, Travis $3,857,143$3,857,143 RD UFA - 1	Talbot, Cam $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso $894,166$894,166 ($425,000$425K) LD RFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus $755,833$755,833 ($57,500$58K) RD UFA - 1	Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000
Kylington, Oliver $730,833$730,833 ($82,500$82K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000
Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000	Stone, Michael $700,000$700,000

Sep. 11, 2019 at 10:35 p.m.

Nick623

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Stone takes ~333k pay cut. Calgary gets to shift 1.166667 mil cap to next season. Borrowing from next year's cap. If there is a next season...

Sep. 11, 2019 at 10:36 p.m.

NR1203

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Can someone explain how signing Stone wasn't cap circumvention? I don't really understand how they got away with it.

Sep. 11, 2019 at 10:45 p.m.

papishark

Joined: Aug. 2019

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Quoting: NR1203

Can someone explain how signing Stone wasn't cap circumvention? I don't really understand how they got away with it.

The rule for resigning after buyouts only apply to cap compliance buy outs, Stone was just regularity bought out

Sep. 11, 2019 at 11:01 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Don't know if I'd call it genius. You did still end up with Michael Stone on your team.

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Sep. 11, 2019 at 11:11 p.m.

ItWasIn

CGY

Joined: Dec. 2015

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It's legal lol, or else the NHL wouldn't have allowed the signing to go through

Sep. 12, 2019 at 12:10 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

Joined: Jun. 2019

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Don't know if I'd call it genius. You did still end up with Michael Stone on your team.

Stone is a perfectly capable RD he was just overpaid. I will gladly take him for 700K and know he will be significantly better then any of the current RD not signed (that would cost around the same)

Sep. 12, 2019 at 8:54 a.m.

NR1203

V5 ANA and BOG

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Quoting: papishark

The rule for resigning after buyouts only apply to cap compliance buy outs, Stone was just regularity bought out

So then why did the caps have to trade Orpik last year?

Sep. 12, 2019 at 10:09 a.m.

F50marco

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Quoting: Nick623

Stone takes ~333k pay cut. Calgary gets to shift 1.166667 mil cap to next season. Borrowing from next year's cap. If there is a next season...

Its a pretty genius way to become cap compliant if a Tkachuk signing ended up pushing them over the cap by a mil or so. It would give them the entire season to make additional moves or let contracts expire to make them cap compliant again next year.

I know its not a huge difference but its a worthy one. IMO its totally cap circumvention but also within the rules.

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