Add Jakob Larsson, Troy Terry and a protected 1st

Laine doesn't even make top line on the Quacks. Poor ****

I mean ducks really dont have a top line to begin with

***This was for fun. Won't happen and probably not fair value.
But thats also not fair value. He's not connor mcdavid.

That value would still be too low for Laine...

Kase in his career has not scored more than Laine has in each of his first two single seasons.........

If Laine is getting crucified for being lazy and whatnot after one bad year in which he still outscored every Anaheim duck player, than Kase should be equally crucified for being made of glass. 5on5 Scoring chances /60 be damned if he can't stay healthy to perform for a long enough amount of time to earn any recognition.

Kase and a 1st is not enough for a generational scoring talent that just needs to mature, which will come with age as it does with all players.

Too much. Take out Lundestrom and I am ok with it.



I'd do it.

What about for a kid who is self-entitled, expecting a big payout and not much use when he isn't scoring. If Laine is available, it's because WPG can't re-sign him. In which case, his value will be significantly less than the "generational scoring talent" you describe.

Why would anyone want him then? Everyone keeps saying all these things about him as they quietly trade for him and play him on their top line. He clearly isn't as bad as everyone thinks he is or no one would want him....

Highlighting a player's weaknesses isn't the same as saying he's bad. Whilst you and other WPG fans may feel like everyone is "bashing" Laine, we non-WPG fans feel like you are ignoring his deficiencies and expecting a return equivalent to a prime Ovi. Laine has elite scoring abilities, but he's not much use elsewhere. Can he improve? Sure. However, like any other player that is yet to prove their abilities, there is a risk attached to Laine and that affects his value. WPG fans need to accept this fact. They also need to accept that, if Laine is available, it is because WPG cannot re-sign him. That means (1) Laine doesn't want to sign in WPG, and/or (2) Laine is too expensive for WPG, and/or (3) WPG has soured on Laine. Consequently, Laine's value drops. Therefore, in any proposed trade on here for Laine, it is automatically assumed that Laine isn't being re-signed by WPG and he is valued accordingly.

If Laine does want to sign in WPG and WPG can afford/want him, then there is no trade. Simple as. There is no point in asking us non-WPG fans for 4 x 1sts or more than 4 x 1st or proven elite players or players of equivalent value + for Laine because "WPG doesn't have to move him". If WPG doesn't want to move him, he isn't available for any price and the discussion about value ends there. However, trades for Laine obviously assume this isn't the case and that he is available and the value we put on him indicates that.

First of all, Im not a Jets fan. Just an impartial observer.

Secondly, how many players at the age of 21 don't have any weaknesses? Its funny that before this year, this wasn't even a topic of discussion but 1 off year soured two previous years in which he put up numbers no other players has done since Ovechkin?

No one is asking for an Ovechkin like return but the idea that this 1 off year has destroyed virtually half the value he previously had is laughable. People on here have a recency bias and expect because they believe this, others have to also. That's not how it works. Laine is an RFA. Meaning he has little say and will be a Jet if Chevy doesn't explore trading him. If he doesn't like it, fine sit out. Its strange that its ok for this to apply to Marner but not Laine...... Funny enough his deal gone done is a matter of days. So the same can apply to Laine.

Regardless of this, I'm not sure you can assume the jets can't get Laine signed. That is pretty obnoxious of the fact that you have no inside knowledge of the negotiation. Just a feeling.... and feelings don't dictate facts. The Jets have ample cap space, especially so with Buff looking like he may retire, to get Laine signed but in case you haven't noticed, the goal isn't just to get the player signed, its to get the players signed for as little as they realistically can and that takes time to do sometimes. Just like with other players like Point, Rantanen, etc.

As for a discussion of trading him, have the Jets come out and said they are looking to trade Laine? Have the insiders come out and said the Jets are actively trying to move him? No they haven't. The trade discussion we're having is hypothetical only and not something concrete. Just fantasy. We could easily have this same conversation about Rantanen or Point, etc.

Regarding Laine as a player, one would be insane to think that the players value in the trade is what it is at its lowest. That is negotiation 101, sell high, buy low so naturally the piranha's come out of the word work to try and get a deal. He has his blemishes and coming off a bad year expecting max value would be silly. Expecting fair value based on the players whole body of work and future projection isn't. Laine's weakness is his complete game. What is something players do when they mature in the NHL? They learn to play a more complete game. That comes with age and experience. Laine's strength is to score goals is it not? What do players do when they reach their prime? They generally produce more and at more important times.

You may not have to accept the terms of my price but you have no choice but live by them. Laine in the Jets eyes is a generational goal scorer who will only get better with time. The weaknesses he has can be worked on and in most cases with players of his talent are ironed out as they mature. You can't make a player a better goal scorer. Either you have it or you don't. If your worried about him not being signed yet, don't. Its none of your concern, unless that is you want to pay the price I've valued my asset at. Then we can discuss. If not, don't tell me how to value my asset. The one everyone is trying get for themselves but isn't willing to pay my (I assume the GM's as well) price. I am in no way in a rush to make this move. Despite what others think.