You can't put punctuation in titles so Matthew's and Matthews' would both come out the same. Considering this is post is about Matthew Tkachuk, it is confusing

In my books 1-3 is bridge, 4-6 is short Term and 6-8 is long Term ( 6 being a matter of subjective perception ). Matthews deal sucks as OP perfectly described it below

I'm having a lot of fun, but this is really my point at the end of the day.

13 points in 20games isn’t great for an “elite” level player. Also his game 5-7 stats are terrible. Elimination games

5 years is absolutely not a bridge deal

Again its based on him being shut down in one series, outside of that its 11 pts/13 GP which is fine. AS well it is still 10 g in 20 GP.

But I'll trust you in the elimination thing, I don't remember that offhand

bud i wouldn't be chirping about the playoffs since everyone on the flames was non-existent.

This group of Flames has actually won a few playoff series, something the Leafs haven't done since before the 04/05 lockout.

The Matthews deal was bad, but the Tkachuk deal is much worse.

Just awful for the Flames to get more points and retain player control for 4.3M less than Matthews

flames have only won a single playoff series since the lockout.

i know the leafs aren't exactly better, but at least they're able to win some games.

And they got paid more for doing it. it's not like his contract is unusual.

60% of the points, should be 60% of the cap share if that's the argument (ie. 10% of cap)

fair point, but you should probably use points per game instead of total points.

I'll compare to malkin, because let's be honest, crosby is in a completely different tier than pretty much every player other than ovi.

If you do that and compare it to Malkin, it's more like 81% of ppg (Malkin at 1.19 PPG, and Matthews at 0.98 PPG) at time of signing for like 90% of the cap hit. which kind of makes sense. I wouldnt expect cap hit's to work linearly, probably a bit more of an S shape trend, with players that can produce 0 to 30 points getting paid nothing, with a ramp up from 30 to 70 ish points, and then 70 plus starting to level off.

Matthews PPG rates put him as an 80 point player on average for his first 3 seasons.

He needs to actually stay healthy and play the games

Matthews is over a ppg player. Tkachuk isn’t even a ppg player. So yes the flames contract to Tkachuk is awful. Matthews only played 68 games last year and scored only 4 fewer points. Since he is over a ppg player, he would have gotten at least 12 more points had he played the same number of games as Tkachuk. Plus Matthews is a center which is exponentially more valuable than a LW.

4.3M for 12 pts. That's some serious value.

2007/2008 crosby just had a 72 point season, and looking for his first real contract. He clearly regressed hard from his 100 point rookie and sophmore seasons, down to a 72 point player. He needs to actually stay healthy and play the games, 72 points isnt worth 17.30% of the cap.

That Matthew Tkachuk though, what a player, he improved from a 40 ish point guy to a 77 point player. 77 points is better than crosby's 72 points, and he's heading in the right direction. He should get paid more than Crosby.

/s

Ok no point in discussing with stupid trolls who lack the brain cells required to have a legit discussion on this. Carry on

This is a dig at the OP, not the 2nd comment btw. Just used it to show the road this is going down.

dude im on your side, i'm just pointing out how ridiculous claytron8000 is using point totals and not caring about points per game, contract term, and using a player's entire career up to signing.

I know that’s why I put the second part lol.

gotcha. that was an edit though right?

Yeah, I edited right away cause I right away saw how that would be confusing lol

Crosby's 2 seasons prior he had 102 and 120 points, and he actually missed fewer games due to injury than Matthews his first 3 seasons.

but that tkachuk guy clearly was better than crosby in each of their respective 3rd seasons. 77 points vs 72 poitns. just no comparison, and trending in the right direction. Tkachuk is better than crosby /s