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Think Dadanov would be awesome fit

Created by: CHUG
Initial Creation Date: Dec 18, 2019
Published: Dec 19, 2019 at 10:17
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
Florida getting familiarity and an extra year on Bjugstad's contract which may allow them to sign Hoffman. They also get an upgrade in the backup position which they need and they get the second rounder for a rental.
The Kings deal is not really set in stone, I just think the pens should use Galchenyuk to upgrade the LHD position, doesn't necessarily need to be Martinez.

The following season if the Cap go's up to 84 mil (has been rumoured)
Leaves pitt 26.5 to resign people
Murray and Jarry combined 7 mill
Pettersson and McCann combined 6.5 mill
Kahun and Lafferty combined 3.5
Dadanov 5.5 mill
leaves 4 mill to replace Schultz and 13th forward and maybe more if you can move JJ
Trades
PIT
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Montembeault, Samuel
FLA
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. DeSmith, Casey
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Martinez, Alec ($1,000,000 retained)
LAK
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Hållander, Filip
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,149,125$132,500$3,832,500$3,350,875

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
FLA
Dadonov, Evgeni
$4,000,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
LAK
Martinez, Alec
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$767,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Guentzel, J.
Crosby, S.
Dadonov, E.
Malkin, E.
Letang, K.
Power Play 2
Hörnqvist, P.
McCann, J.
Rust, B.
Kahun, D.
Schultz, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Blueger, T.
Tanev, B.
Dumoulin, B.
Letang, K.
Penalty Kill 2
Aston-Reese, Z.
Rust, B.
Pettersson, M.
Marino, J.

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Dec 19, 2019 at 10:31
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what do you realistically see murray getting for a contract? no chance thats enough for dadanov btw. 2 time cup winner, i think murray get 7m himself.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:39
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Quoting: hanson493
what do you realistically see murray getting for a contract? no chance thats enough for dadanov btw. 2 time cup winner, i think murray get 7m himself.


Iirc Murray hasn't been very good these past two years according to most Pens fans, plus Jarry's been getting more of the starts recently I think.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:42
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Quoting: hanson493
what do you realistically see murray getting for a contract? no chance thats enough for dadanov btw. 2 time cup winner, i think murray get 7m himself.


What is dadanovs value then? and Murray shouldn't get 7 mill, he has had a pretty bad season and has been inconsistent most of his career I could see around 5-5.5 if his play doesn't dramatically improve.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:44
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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
Iirc Murray hasn't been very good these past two years according to most Pens fans, plus Jarry's been getting more of the starts recently I think.


murray had a 2.69 gaa and a .919 save % last year. thats not bad. I think jarry getting more starts recently is just riding the hot hand. He has been one of the best goalies this season where murray has struggled.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:45
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Quoting: CHUG
What is dadanovs value then? and Murray shouldn't get 7 mill, he has had a pretty bad season and has been inconsistent most of his career I could see around 5-5.5 if his play doesn't dramatically improve.


in a world where both martin jones and jonathan quick make 5.7m murray will get more than that.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:45
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Quoting: hanson493
what do you realistically see murray getting for a contract? no chance thats enough for dadanov btw. 2 time cup winner, i think murray get 7m himself.


If Murray wants 7mil he won't be a pen next season
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:47
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Quoting: hanson493
in a world where both martin jones and jonathan quick make 5.7m murray will get more than that.


Those are bad contracts, and the pens aren't looking to sign a goalie to a bad contract while they have all of the options they currently have
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:47
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Quoting: CHUG
What is dadanovs value then? and Murray shouldn't get 7 mill, he has had a pretty bad season and has been inconsistent most of his career I could see around 5-5.5 if his play doesn't dramatically improve.


idk but i highly highly doubt they take a player back that they originally traded to you. i think if dadanov gets moved its for a top 4 dman.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:50
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Quoting: hanson493
idk but i highly highly doubt they take a player back that they originally traded to you. i think if dadanov gets moved its for a top 4 dman.


could try schultz then instead of bjugstad and use galchenyuk to get a player like collin miller to fill his spot and leave JJ in the lineup as he has actually played not bad this year
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:50
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Quoting: Toddyd77
If Murray wants 7mil he won't be a pen next season


Vasilevsky just signed 9.5 x 8. Hellebuyck signed a 6.167 x 6. Deal has to fall in between the 2. Recency bias is teams are paying their goaltenders early. The guy won you back to back stanley cups. He is the definition of "turns it on" when the games mean something.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:56
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Quoting: CHUG
could try schultz then instead of bjugstad and use galchenyuk to get a player like collin miller to fill his spot and leave JJ in the lineup as he has actually played not bad this year


schultz has been injured off and on all year and pitt has absolutely nobody to replace schultz. i dont think miller is the defenseman they want to move in a deal. I just dont think florida and pitt agree on a deal here. especially where florida is in a playoff spot.
Dec 19, 2019 at 10:58
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Quoting: CHUG
Those are bad contracts, and the pens aren't looking to sign a goalie to a bad contract while they have all of the options they currently have


when quick was extended that was a really good contract. jones was actually decent his first 3 years with sjs his play has dropped off significantly.
Dec 19, 2019 at 11:02
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Quoting: hanson493
in a world where both martin jones and jonathan quick make 5.7m murray will get more than that.


Then he can do it somewhere other than Pittsburgh, and they will happily take the 1st+3rd, or 1st+2nd+3rd compensation.
Dec 19, 2019 at 11:02
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Martinez isn't a rental with another year on his contract and you are asking for us to retain, Kings are looking for picks and prospects, ideally defensive prospects. A 2nd and Calen Addison might get it done.
Dec 19, 2019 at 11:13
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Then he can do it somewhere other than Pittsburgh, and they will happily take the 1st+3rd, or 1st+2nd+3rd compensation.


all im saying is recency bias has shown that teams are extending goalies earlier for longer term since thats arguably the biggest position that needs to be filled. There are multiple articles from people more informed than i that are saying murrays deal will land closer to vasilevskys deal than quick/jones.
Dec 19, 2019 at 11:15
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Quoting: hanson493
...There are multiple articles from people ...


By "articles" do you mean "Facebook posts"?
Dec 19, 2019 at 11:16
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Murray isn't getting traded and Bjugstad definitely isn't getting traded back to Florida less than a year after they traded him to Pittsburgh.
Dec 19, 2019 at 11:47
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Quoting: Yojimbo
By "articles" do you mean "Facebook posts"?


i mean im not a pittsburgh native sooooo not sure how "facebook posts" would be relevant here. Good try at a dig, maybe cook something else up thats a little stronger than social media. Ill be here, lemme know when you think of something actually funny!
Dec 19, 2019 at 12:01
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Quoting: hanson493
i mean im not a pittsburgh native sooooo not sure how "facebook posts" would be relevant here. Good try at a dig, maybe cook something else up thats a little stronger than social media. Ill be here, lemme know when you think of something actually funny!


Does it have to be as strong at the "multiple articles" that you have seen? Cause that will be tough to top...

Are these "multiple articles" that are strong enough to base your entire opinion on... um... AGMs here?

Oh, this is fun... it's like a Family Feud... survey says....
Dec 19, 2019 at 12:06
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Quoting: hanson493
Vasilevsky just signed 9.5 x 8. Hellebuyck signed a 6.167 x 6. Deal has to fall in between the 2. Recency bias is teams are paying their goaltenders early. The guy won you back to back stanley cups. He is the definition of "turns it on" when the games mean something.


He is getting outplayed this year by a goalie who everyone thought would be traded this past summer. The reason he will get traded is the Pens are not built salary wise to pay a goalie that much. And lets not give Murray all the credit for those Cups he did have a pretty awesome team in front of him and the 2nd one FLeury carried the water for a while.
Dec 19, 2019 at 12:09
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Does it have to be as strong at the "multiple articles" that you have seen? Cause that will be tough to top...

Are these "multiple articles" that are strong enough to base your entire opinion on... um... AGMs here?

Oh, this is fun... it's like a Family Feud... survey says....


yeah man you got me, i take what other people that have no clue what they are talking about like yourself to heart and treat it as bible. Various reporters that write for various sites and papers obviously you can think what you want but its a quick google search and multiple reporters saying similar things pop up. You think ide take your word and be like "bozo the clown over here says murrays getting only 5 that must be it!" look at recent trends.
Dec 19, 2019 at 12:13
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Quoting: Toddyd77
He is getting outplayed this year by a goalie who everyone thought would be traded this past summer. The reason he will get traded is the Pens are not built salary wise to pay a goalie that much. And lets not give Murray all the credit for those Cups he did have a pretty awesome team in front of him and the 2nd one FLeury carried the water for a while.


jarry has played 15 games. imagine basing your entire future right now off of a 15 game sample. Come the playoffs if jarry is still playing like this, we can talk. He has 44 career games played. this is his best stretch by any means as a goaltender. Hes hot right now. Will he regress and murray comes back to form? more than likely yes.
Dec 19, 2019 at 1:26
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Quoting: hanson493
what do you realistically see murray getting for a contract? no chance thats enough for dadanov btw. 2 time cup winner, i think murray get 7m himself.


He's an RFA, so if he gets 7 mil, I doubt it comes from Pitt...if he does get that from someone, the pens get a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd. I'd take that in a heart beat before matching that offer. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out, but I dont think any arbitrator would give him more than 5...
Dec 19, 2019 at 1:45
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Quoting: hanson493
yeah man you got me, i take what other people that have no clue what they are talking about like yourself to heart and treat it as bible. Various reporters that write for various sites and papers obviously you can think what you want but its a quick google search and multiple reporters saying similar things pop up. You think ide take your word and be like "bozo the clown over here says murrays getting only 5 that must be it!" look at recent trends.


My quick Google search must be broken then.
Dec 19, 2019 at 2:08
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Quoting: tom
He's an RFA, so if he gets 7 mil, I doubt it comes from Pitt...if he does get that from someone, the pens get a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd. I'd take that in a heart beat before matching that offer. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out, but I dont think any arbitrator would give him more than 5...


hes won the team 2 stanley cups. Please put all your chips into the basket of tristan jarry. ide love to see how jarry/desmith works out for pitt.
 
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