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Winnipeg needs D

Created by: Ulanov1977
Initial Creation Date: Dec 28, 2019
Published: Dec 28, 2019 at 9:10 pm
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
EDM
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
WPG
  1. Nurse, Darnell
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
  • Eric Gryba: $300,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
Buried
  • Brandon Manning: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
  • Kyle Brodziak: $75,000 ($1,150,000)
  • Sam Gagner: $2,075,000 ($3,150,000)
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2020
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EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,181,999$0$2,477,500$1,318,001
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 6
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
Nygård, Joakim
$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Sheahan, Riley
$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
EDM
Granlund, Markus
$1,300,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Haas, Gaëtan
$925,000
C
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Patrick
$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$720,000
RD
RFA - 1
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Jones, Caleb
$720,000
LD
RFA - 1
EDM
Benning, Matthew
$1,900,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Dec 28, 2019 at 9:16
#1
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Clearly makes LD weaker but Elhers is lighting it up this year so if it could be done Oilers should probably pull the trigger. Maybe Lagesson will get a shot.. would like to see what he can do at NHL level at some point this year.
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:21
#2
MisstheWhalers
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Ehlers is the Jets best forward, this trade isn't happening.
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:22
#3
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
Clearly makes LD weaker but Elhers is lighting it up this year so if it could be done Oilers should probably pull the trigger. Maybe Lagesson will get a shot.. would like to see what he can do at NHL level at some point this year.


I watched some Condors games last season and Lagesson looked really good, better then Bear in the games I saw.
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Dec 28, 2019 at 9:24
#4
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Ehlers is the Jets best forward, this trade isn't happening.


In that case we will do Nurse for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th best forwards, any of them. Scheifele, Connor, Laine
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:24
#5
Jet69
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Edited Dec 28, 2019 at 9:31
Probably a fair trade value wise but can’t see it happening. Ehlers is on a steal of a contract and one of our best forwards. I’d love Nurse though. Think he would fit right in on the second line and bring some much needed physicality
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:25
#6
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Ehlers is the Jets best forward, this trade isn't happening.


If the trade was proposed in the offseason after the RFAs signed do the Jets pull the trigger?
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:27
#7
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Copenhagen
In that case we will do Nurse for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th best forwards, any of them. Scheifele, Connor, Laine


Lol

Seriously though the Jets are thinner on forward then they are on defense, can't see them trading any of their top 6 forwards.
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29
#8
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I watched some Condors games last season and Lagesson looked really good, better then Bear in the games I saw.


Yea, He was really solid in the preseason as well but doesn't say much. I like how he didn't seem to get rattled and had good puck moving ability
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:32
#9
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
If the trade was proposed in the offseason after the RFAs signed do the Jets pull the trigger?


You mean after Connor and Laine signed?

I don't know but I was dead set against trading Ehlers, the kid is really really good and he committed to this small market team that very few want to play for, that means a lot and you don't just trade that away for help elsewhere. I'm not exaggerating when I say Ehlers is their best forward, he really is.

If Chevy trades Ehlers for anything less then a massive overpay he's a ****ing idiot and should be fired immediately, Nurse isn't an overpay.
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:34
#10
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
Yea, He was really solid in the preseason as well but doesn't say much. I like how he didn't seem to get rattled and had good puck moving ability


Yeah can't base much if anything on preseason, hopefully he shows well. I really think the Oilers should be looking at moving a D or D prospect for a winger with some term if a trade like that is out there, no one from the Jets though.. Lol
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:37
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
You mean after Connor and Laine signed?

I don't know but I was dead set against trading Ehlers, the kid is really really good and he committed to this small market team that very few want to play for, that means a lot and you don't just trade that away for help elsewhere. I'm not exaggerating when I say Ehlers is their best forward, he really is.

If Chevy trades Ehlers for anything less then a massive overpay he's a ****ing idiot and should be fired immediately, Nurse isn't an overpay.


Yea, was referring to this past summer. Anyways what happens to Little when he returns seems like Wheeler is the #2C now and what value do you think he holds with his contract and age?
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:47
#12
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
Yea, was referring to this past summer. Anyways what happens to Little when he returns seems like Wheeler is the #2C now and what value do you think he holds with his contract and age?


I'm not sure, probably not much given his age and contract as you say but I'm a big Little fan so I really hope he can return from this and get back to the player he was and shut up all his effing naysayers!

If Little does return he likely goes to 3rd line RW and struggles cause Adam Lowry is the worst 3C in the league and it's a line where offense goes to die!
Ugh, it's so frustrating, so much depth and the opportunity to have an actual 3rd offensive line that'd still be defensively responsible but I just know that Maurice won't put Little or Copp at 3C, he'll leave Lowry there and the entire bottom 6 will struggle because of it. Who knows though maybe Little and Copp or Perreault could drag Lowry to respectability but I highly doubt it, there's also a chance he drops Roslovic down to the 3rd line and either puts Little on Wheeler's wing or makes Little 2C again and puts Wheeler on his wing, hope that he keeps Scheiffele and Wheeler separated whatever happens.

On a positive note it sounds like Little is skating again every other day so that's encouraging, hope the guy is alright regardless of if he ever plays again, he seems like a class act.
Dec 28, 2019 at 9:54
#13
Jet69
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I would just offer sheet Nurse in the off season. I’d be comfortable giving up or 21’ 1st and 3rd for him long term.
Dec 28, 2019 at 10:40
#14
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Edited Dec 28, 2019 at 10:45
Quoting: jgimp69
I would just offer sheet Nurse in the off season. I’d be comfortable giving up or 21’ 1st and 3rd for him long term.


Not sure the Jets could afford an offersheet on Nurse, CF showing 75M on the books already for next year with 17 players signed. Lets say offersheet must be decent overpay that's 7M+ range leaving jets with less then 2M to sign 5 players including Roslovic. 7M also makes it 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks
Dec 28, 2019 at 10:48
#15
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I'm not sure, probably not much given his age and contract as you say but I'm a big Little fan so I really hope he can return from this and get back to the player he was and shut up all his effing naysayers!

If Little does return he likely goes to 3rd line RW and struggles cause Adam Lowry is the worst 3C in the league and it's a line where offense goes to die!
Ugh, it's so frustrating, so much depth and the opportunity to have an actual 3rd offensive line that'd still be defensively responsible but I just know that Maurice won't put Little or Copp at 3C, he'll leave Lowry there and the entire bottom 6 will struggle because of it. Who knows though maybe Little and Copp or Perreault could drag Lowry to respectability but I highly doubt it, there's also a chance he drops Roslovic down to the 3rd line and either puts Little on Wheeler's wing or makes Little 2C again and puts Wheeler on his wing, hope that he keeps Scheiffele and Wheeler separated whatever happens.

On a positive note it sounds like Little is skating again every other day so that's encouraging, hope the guy is alright regardless of if he ever plays again, he seems like a class act.


Was selfishly thinking he actually fits into what Edmonton needs currently maybe in the offseason for a bit of retained salary he could be had for a decent price grin
Dec 28, 2019 at 10:55
#16
Billy739
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Ehlers is the Jets best forward, this trade isn't happening.


. . . .
Schiefele -41 points = Undisputed best
Laine- 37 points = Undisputed 2nd best
Connor - 35 points = Undisputed 3rd best
Wheeler- 31 points= Solid Veteran 5th best this year
Ehlers - 29 points = Undisputed 4th best
Dec 28, 2019 at 10:58
#17
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Billy739
. . . .
Schiefele -41 points = Undisputed best
Laine- 37 points = Undisputed 2nd best
Connor - 35 points = Undisputed 3rd best
Wheeler- 31 points= Solid Veteran 5th best this year
Ehlers - 29 points = Undisputed 4th best


Watch the games, he's their best player, he also plays on the 2nd line unlike 3 of those guys and doesn't get 1st PP duty like those 4 guys you listed even though he should.
Dec 28, 2019 at 11:00
#18
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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
Was selfishly thinking he actually fits into what Edmonton needs currently maybe in the offseason for a bit of retained salary he could be had for a decent price grin


it helps both teams
He seems to have confused Schiefele with Ehlers
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Dec 28, 2019 at 11:01
#19
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Watch the games, he's their best player, he also plays on the 2nd line unlike 3 of those guys and doesn't get 1st PP duty like those 4 guys you listed even though he should.


dude , some one proves you wrong in context using example's
you act like a child in your response
your entire premise is based on you're the only person who watches hockey right
that's just bizarre
Dec 28, 2019 at 11:05
#20
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Billy739
dude , some one proves you wrong in context using example's
you act like a child in your response
your entire premise is based on you're the only person who watches hockey right
that's just bizarre


I gave legitimate context as to why Ehlers point totals are less then those 4 players but you say I'm acting like a child... Lol
From many of your comments I've read you're quite bizzare, have a good one!
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Dec 29, 2019 at 8:35
#21
Billy739
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I gave legitimate context as to why Ehlers point totals are less then those 4 players but you say I'm acting like a child... Lol
From many of your comments I've read you're quite bizzare, have a good one!

Awww isnt that Cute . . . . Bambi's confused hahaha
Less minutes vs Less talented players , i heard your Galchenyuk explination
i know what Sheltered Minutes are and i dont give people extra credit for being unreliable vs Elite players

There's a saying my dad always said growing up
'' You don't know what you dont know , so dont argue with people who have no ability to check themselves . ''

Solid advice that hasnt steered me wrong .
Your comments speak for themselves i've got not reason to take a shot at them as you do it for me .
Dec 29, 2019 at 9:28
#22
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I watched some Condors games last season and Lagesson looked really good, better then Bear in the games I saw.


Not sure why he hasn't been given a chance, but he did get recalled today so maybe we'll see him this week.
Dec 29, 2019 at 9:44
#23
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Billy739
Awww isnt that Cute . . . . Bambi's confused hahaha
Less minutes vs Less talented players , i heard your Galchenyuk explination
i know what Sheltered Minutes are and i dont give people extra credit for being unreliable vs Elite players

There's a saying my dad always said growing up
'' You don't know what you dont know , so dont argue with people who have no ability to check themselves . ''

Solid advice that hasnt steered me wrong .
Your comments speak for themselves i've got not reason to take a shot at them as you do it for me .


You're clearly delusional, maybe have a chat with your dad, hopefully it helps.
 
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