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The Big Buf conundrum

Created by: masterjuddi
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 17, 2020
Published: Jan. 17, 2020
Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
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Basically this is a hypotheical, where the jets find out before the deadline that Buf is not coming back (this season or next)and they are allowed to spend his cap space. Who could/should they target with the 7.6 mill space.
Thoughts? Ideas?
please remember this is just a hypothecial trade idea(s) to start a debate haha
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
2.
WPG
  1. Subban, P.K.
Additional Details:
2 million retained
NJD
  1. McKenzie, Skyler
  2. Stanley, Logan
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (WPG)
  4. 2022 4th round pick (WPG)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Patrik Laine: $1,755,000 (26%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
29$81,500,000$98,159,523$0$380,000-$16,659,523
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 7
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Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
UFA - 5
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Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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Laine, Patrik
$4,995,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Little, Bryan
$5,291,667
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Lowry, Adam
$2,916,667
C
UFA - 2
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Roslovic, Jack
$894,166
C, RW
RFA - 1
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Bourque, Gabriel
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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Appleton, Mason
$741,667
RW
RFA - 1
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Harkins, Jansen
$767,500
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Shore, Nick
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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Letestu, Mark
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Kulikov, Dmitry
$4,333,333
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Byfuglien, Dustin
$7,600,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 5
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Morrissey, Joshua
$3,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Brossoit, Laurent
$1,225,000
G
UFA - 1
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Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Niku, Sami
$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Dahlström, Carl
$850,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Sbisa, Luca
$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Bitetto, Anthony
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Subban, P.K.
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.
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I think PK would come cheaper then that, especially if you're taking his whole cap hit.

They will also likely look at Petry if and when MTL decides to finally sell off.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Think you would either need to change that 2nd to a 1st or give us a better prospect/player for Risto
Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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Subban is terrible, wouldn't give a 7th for him.

Not sure about Ristolainen, think he'd cost more then that to get.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
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With 7.6 mill in cap space it just makes more sense to look at UFA's. I'd rather keep my picks and prospects.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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Get a rental for this year and spend the cap hit on a UFA or 2.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
I think PK would come cheaper then that, especially if you're taking his whole cap hit.

They will also likely look at Petry if and when MTL decides to finally sell off.


It would definitely be a buy low situation and personally I wouldn't want the jets to make this deal. Also, the deal is with 2 mill retained so he comes in at 7
Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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With 7.6 mill in cap space it just makes more sense to look at UFA's. I'd rather keep my picks and prospects.


For next year for sure, but what about this year? just ride it out?
Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.
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Yeah rent a guy cheap and spend the cash in the off aeason for a solid D at a reasonable price. Scandella , Edmonson, that kinda guy
Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:21 a.m.
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Yeah rent a guy cheap and spend the cash in the off aeason for a solid D at a reasonable price. Scandella , Edmonson, that kinda guy


If its a rental, Vatanen is the guy...a decent RD and pretty much the only UFA RD that is on a losing team.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:35 a.m.
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If its a rental, Vatanen is the guy...a decent RD and pretty much the only UFA RD that is on a losing team.


what would he cost? or what should the jets give up for him? If im Chevvy Im not giving up a 1st for a rental, but the jets still have a strong prospect pool
Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: masterjuddi
what would he cost? or what should the jets give up for him? If im Chevvy Im not giving up a 1st for a rental, but the jets still have a strong prospect pool


a prospect and a 2nd...If they think Stanley is expendable, him...
Jan. 23, 2020 at 4:03 p.m.
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Quoting: masterjuddi
For next year for sure, but what about this year? just ride it out?


I think if you're saying absolutely anything about this year, it needs to be predicated on whether you actually think the Jets are serious contenders.

And the answer is no. Pionk, Poolman, and Morrissey are the only defensemen who belong in the NHL, and Poolman is not a top pairing defenseman. Niku does too in that he deserves and probably needs the experience to grow, but his play is not significantly affecting the Jets' defensive prowess.

Riding it out is far and away the best option. Laine, Roslovic, Poolman, Pionk have all made strides this season.
Next season Kulikov is off the books. Give Laine a 4M raise and sign him long term, trim the fat off of the roster and use the money to extend the other kids. Wait for Buff to make a decision about his future and then go sign a UFA if Buff leaves.
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