Honest question why does MTL want to get rid of Domi so bad?

i can answer this .

its not wanting him gone its Suzuki stepped up and took his #2 Center and had 11 points in 13 games since last i checked .
we cant send him back to Wing anymore then we can Domi given his expressed desire to stay at Center .

KK cant stay in Laval forever and honestly should have been back up by now but there's no minutes as is for Domi and Suzuki

Domi's great and we'd like to sell high on him rather then keep him at limited minutes hoping he doesnt struggle in a reduced role .

Wouldn't you want to trade Danault then? Just based on factors such as age, upside and contract status, as well as Montreals position, wouldn't Domi be the one you'd want to keep? Just curious because I don't see a ton of Danault trades on here but I see a lot with Domi.

Lots better ways to spend 10.5 than on a 60 point Dubois, and you want to give up all those picks too?

Whats the asking price for Domi? Because if hes going to be moving I think the sharks would be super interested

honestly we're looking for a top pair LW prospect 22 or under and a RD prospect also 22 or under .
we'll build a package around that depending on the quality of the offer.

Dahlen for example would require a higher pick like a 1st (conditional or otherwise)
Dahlens got great skills but isnt a sure thing as he's a top player in the AHL and SHL version of the AHL
He's still growing though and while playing 19-20 minutes a night so there's still a chance with his skilled hands he could be a top LW on MTL


Ryan Merkley on the other hand might require a 2nd or conditional 3rd w/ a bottom line guy or AHL call up . (3rd and Suomela maybe )
Merkley's skillset fits MTL's needs sooner then later while SJS has 2 top 4 RD of high skill locked in longterm making this option somewhat plausable .

they're a trading partner that makes sense
we've done good business together in the past (rare but mutually benefitial )

Id for sure do a prospect and a first. I dont know if id really want to trade Merkley just because of how good he is, but I dont think itd be a bad use of his value

agreed
we're not looking to get a kings ransom just the pieces we need in positions we're weak at.(season injuries to 2 of our more promising LW screwed us and set us back a year atleast on LW)

i get not wanting to move Merkley and honestly we'd probably be just as happy drafting our own with the 1st from a Dahlen deal IMO that option fixes all our problems.
plus i got this good feeling about Dahlen-Danault-Gallagher after Drouin-Suzuki-Armia as both lines have Skill, Capable Sniper and Forechecking. Byron-KK -Lehkonen can Back Check

Honestly I hope the sharks look for that deal if Domi is shopped

To answer this question, it's because Danault is constantly facing the toughest opposition and improving the play of everybody around him. He's a 50pt player and everything you want from a 2nd line center. Domi and Suzuki just can't take on the defensive challenge while putting up points like Danault can.

he will be
we've waited a very long time for a Suzuki
we've waited even longer for a Kotkanemi
we cant be cutting their minutes for Domi

its a basic logistics question
Do we trade our top French Born Center who's climbed consistently since his first full year from top 50 Faceoffs to top 10 to top 5 as it sits now
or do we trade our very talented but sometimes reckless Center who can only win Faceoffs 43-45% of the time who's offense is a little streaky (he'll go 6 -10 game streak then same for cold streak)

Danault's Value can only increase so it makes sense to keep him and re-sign him to a 5 year deal leaving them both in a position to trade him when youth push him inevitably out .

It's a real shame to because i like Domi's reckless style personally i love a guy who goes '' you know what F it '' and grabs a guy for a fight thats twice his size hahaha
if he'd just be ok with moving back to Wing we'd keep him but he's told the media as has our GM its where he wants to be going forward .
weird situation we were in being lucky enough to get him for a bust

Yet you mean as Suzuki's capable just still learning
but i agree completely

Bergeron has never been a 90 or 100point player but has often been top 10 in the league hands down based on his 2 way ability like Danault .
not that i'm saying he'll be Bergeron but more like Bergeron Lite brought to you by Molson Breweries :P

i like Danault because he added weight and just discovered he's not a small guy compared to Byron who hits anyone he can at 5'9 :P
i find he's gotten drastically better in the OZ for it and when Gallagher was out he was battling infront of the net in Gally's house and picked up a few points

Danault over Domi because of consistency and upside fitting our timeline /needs better
both are excellent players though

I have a feeling Suzuki is going to turn into an excellent 2-way center. But today is not that day haha

Agreed
But leave him with Lehkonen-Armia long enough and it will speed that right along .

Heck even Drouin's 2 way game impressed me before his injury
Watching him Put Phil Kessel on his Arse with Authority was thoroughly amusing and memorable .

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I think Danault is a fantastic player. But he is a UFA. If no contract was in place by the deadline, wouldn't you want to trade him rather than risk losing him for nothing, considering the position of the Canadiens?

The Jackets would match for Dubois. But Bergevin is not that stupid to try an offer sheet on him because he knows the CBJ would match. You only offer sheet a guy that a team can't match.

A fair point. Offer sheets to Barzal and Dubois are to teams like NYI and CBJ who would be forced to move other assets so as to resign these players. NYI and CBJ currently have a lot of big money contracts down range going into this offseason. MB may entertain offer sheets considering the amount of cap space he has.

Dubois would be terrific in Montreal. First line centreman I'd be willing to overpay for him. As for the picks, if it all ran aground for the Habs again next year, they could flip a ton of pending UFAs for picks in the 2021 and 2022 draft. They'd be fine.

CBJ do not need to move any contracts. That's the point. It would just be a way to tick the FO of the CBJ off. Not a good business move.

Look at all that shuffling just to overpay Dubois for five years. Habs get Dubois and Brodie for a year for Domi, two first, two seconds and two thirds.
Paying Dubois the eight highest player in the league. It might be about 12th with new deals for other players but still.

Matched immediately.

I'm trying to understand the cap #s for CBJ next year. I believe its $78,797,500 if they were to match Dubois (10.5 mil/yr). How much will Merzlikins, Korpisalo, and Anderson cost going into next year? More than 3.5 mil total? I assume there will be CBJ pieces .....

All good points. I'm trying to understand the cap #s for CBJ next year. I believe its $78,797,500 if they were to match Dubois (10.5 mil/yr). How much will Merzlikins, Korpisalo, and Anderson cost going into next year? More than 3.5 mil total? I assume there will be CBJ pieces moving .....

I know what you're saying, but I really doubt he'd look elsewhere. There is no indication of this happening. Danault loves MTL, it's his hometown team, he's one of the few players on the team that's never egged by fans (wow that's a low bar), etc. Who knows, we could be surprised, but I'm willing to try to sign him, even as a UFA.

They are going to move a goalie regardless. It's not a cap issue it is a PT issue. Both are ready for starting job but only one can have it.