Go back to what @ON3M4N said. He has the stats, and if you dont think he is, than im sorry you only think Kane, Pasta, and Ovi are scoring wingers, but the rest of us know that it is a much wider category.

a guy who has a career .30 goal scoring pace is not a scoring winger by any means, are you kidding?

A 30 goal pace would be .36 G/GP....the difference over an 82 games season is 5 goals.

Again your standards for what a goal scorer is....well its just unrealistic and I pointed that out in my last post to you, which you've seem to ignore.

Oh man, I really thought marchy was a scoring winger (only .39 gpg in his career )
And the rangers really messed up picking Kakko if they wanted a scoring winger (only .15 gpg in his career)
Also marchy only had a .28 gpg in his first three nhl seasons. SOOOO

You are not right.
Debrusk is young and still developing. He is a scoring winger. He is what edmonton needs

ok he is a bad scroing winger then, my apologies carry on, bottom line of this whole argument is its a bad trade for the oilers, and it is, nobody "needs" jake debrusk

The owners are billionaires, they just spent a ton of ton of money on a new arena that is going to be finished in a year , and they will be spending close to the cap next season - but they can’t afford to pay ladd 2/3 of his contract over the next 6 years 😂😂😂

That is one of the worst arguments I’ve ever seen on this site

"Young" scoring winger, not "bad". Overall wrong again, Debrusk is a fast and big bodied scoring winger, he is young only in his third nhl season, and putting his bigger body and style of play with McDavid or Nuge would be an incredible combination. Listen, if you dont fully understand players or debrusk, I get that, not everyone knows bruins players as well as bruins fans, but dont come on here trying to make stuff up. Please do your research first. It is a good trade for both sides (and honestly, not for the bruins, bruins dont want another middle 6 RW, we already have Kuhlman, Bjork, Senyshyn, among others), but Im not gonna let my opinion get in the way.

Its not MY argument, that is the reason its being talked about.
In MY OWN opinion, they owners should be able to pay it off. But the reality is that they are a franchise that is losing the nhl money, and the margins are much tighter than we believe. Look it up.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do your research before making wrong and dumb comments. This is not a bad argument, it is the correct argument.

This is not a good look for you dude.

You literally just said “ they can’t afford to pay him the money they still owe him” 😂😂😂

Yes I did,
if they buy him out: they will not be able to pay him the money they would still owe him.
You do understand that he doesnt just disappear right? They still need to pay him, it just doesnt count against the cap.
The islanders are losing money, they do not have the money to pay him his buyput money.
Please tell me you understand this, I have made it as clear as i can

OK, then think CLUTCH scorer, such as:
2017-18 Playoffs | Game 7 | B's vs TML | 1st Round | JD with 2 goals including Series Winner!!

Just stop, you're just making yourself look worse with each post. Last 3 years looking at G/GP (not sure why you switched to that when before the criteria was 30+ goals), DeBrusk would rank 4th on EDM. So either DeBrusk is a goal scorer or EDM just sucks that bad. I don't expect you to respond seeing as you've hid with your tail between your legs to my other posts pointing out how terrible your take is. It amazes me how piss poor the quality of posters has become around here. Honestly, 90% couldn't hold an intelligent hockey conversation if you gave them the talking points.

Idk what to say to help this guy. I have done an extra 10 minutes of research just to make sure he understood debrusk wasnt a "bad scoring winger", just a young and still developing one. This is why I wish people would understand when there is too much evidence against them.
Again: Marchy had 0 goals through his first 20 games, and in the two next season had less than a .30 average gpg. He is now the best overall LW in the game (sorta my opinion, but also he is able to do what OVI does while also being 5' 9" and a good two-way forward) Reguardless, he is a scoring winger, and he started out worse than debrusk. So

His profile lists TML as his favourite NHL club...

The cost to buy out Ladd is not the same as it was for Carolina to buy out Marleau. Marleau had a 6.25M cap hit against the canes this year (they are not exactly a high income team like Boston/Toronto). Ladd will have zero impact towards the cap. The price to have another team buy him out is probably equivalent to a 2nd or 2 3rds.

Buddy you are all over the place.

1st comment : they can’t afford to pay him the money they still owe him

2nd comment : the owners should be able to pay it off

3rd comment : they will not be able to pay him the money they still owe him

If you did your research, you’d know that even teams with a negative net income tend to still be cash flow positive. The islanders just spent 20+ million to lock up their free agents last summer, just signed pageau to a 5+ million AAV deal, and will spend 15+ million to sign barzal and pulock this summer. The narrative that the islanders can’t afford to pay ladd 2/3 of his contract because the team is losing money is hilarious.

Yes: My OPINION is that they should be able to cover it, I agree with you.
BUT: the FACTS are that they cant because they dont have the money to do it.
I am NOT all over the place, I am pointing out that my opinion differs from the facts, but at least i am rational enough to admit it.

As to your second point: teams have to allocate enough money to pay players UNDER THE CAP! This doesnt mean that all teams have money set aside to cover buyouts. Yes: They can pay Ladd 6 million because that is part of the 80 million they have set aside for the cap. BUT they cant pay him the 4 million if they buy him out because now thats 84 million set aside to pay players, which is too much. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read what i am saying and stop trying to come up with excuses. Dont tell me to "do my research lol, thats childish to throw that back at me, on top of the fact that you still didnt do your research

l said before 30+ goals is vague so i take it back, you used the argument that he was 17th amongst lw, in goals that it makes him a goal scorer, by your logic does every one who has more or around the same goals as debrusk make them a goal scorer? hyman has more goals than debrusk, hyman isnt a goal scorer by any means, would you consider brad marchand a a goal scorer? no, hes a pass first guy whos great at both ends. yes he has 28 goals, but could you really call him a goal scoring winger? when you think landeskog do you think goal scorer? no you think power forward, thats what im trying to get at

Actually your statement that the islanders don’t have money to pay ladd if they buy him out is false. Just because the islanders have a net negative income (only -3.5 mill in 18-19) does not mean the islanders don’t have the money to buyout Ladd. Do you understand what cash flow positive means?

Your 2nd argument makes no sense. If the cap is 81.5 and there is 1 compliance buyout , they can afford to buyout Ladd. The islanders “losing” 3.5 mill is not a valid argument as to why they can’t afford to pay him.

nothing to say about this one

HAHAHA are you joking right now? Come on you're just trying to troll at this point, right? Please tell you're trolling and not serious.

Last 5 year goal totals for Marchand:

'19-'20: 28 (on pace for 33 without league shutdown)
'18-'19: 36
'17-'18: 34
'16-'17: 39
'15-'16: 37

In the last 5 years, Marchand ranks 4th in goals scored IN THE ENTIRE NHL and you're going to say he's not a goal scorer? He's actually a consistent 30+ goal scorer (which was your criteria) and you say he isn't a goal scorer. Thank you for proving you have no idea what you're talking about. You're way in over your head in this discussion.

Just for laughs, go ahead and tell me who are "goal scoring" wingers in the NHL.

i guess my argument is hes a 2 way pass first guy before goal scorer, i know his goal stats, but do you at least understand what im trying to get at with the other 2? thers more examples, forget marchand, because he can fall under all around, you are correct

Then you dont understand what a buyout is. It DOESNT COUNT AGAINST THE CAP, butttttttttt they STILL HAVE TO PAY HIM MONEY that they do not have.

I have tried explaning it, but if you wont listen its up to you.
The answer here is that it is correct, and the bruins buying out Ladd makes sense. If you are too dense to listen, learn, and understand that, unfortunately its on you.

Who are goal scoring wingers in your opinion? I'm looking for a list of names.

A compliance buyout does not affect the cap, but you are saying the islanders do not have the money to buyout Ladd, which is not true. You don’t understand that a team doesn’t have to be profitable to have the cash to buyout a player.