That was my mistake, I thought on this site you have to sign them before you trade them, I will try it the other way next time. I thought the site had a glitch like when I try to eat less than 50% of Bennings cap hit, it wont let me for some reason either.

It doesn't when the center is about to be a UFA and the winger was finally showing some consistency at being the high end talent he was drafted to be. Edmonton won't be able to afford Nuge, if they Wild want him, just sign him to deal Edmonton can't afford when he's a UFA and keep their young winger.

You are 100% correct in everything you said. and there is definitely more than meets the eye

Did you see your D next year. Russel for 1.5 million is excellent.

Ahh. Yeah they don't have to BUT they technically could still do your scenario minus the 3 year contract at only 1M which I think JP would refuse and I would agree with him. Its kind of rare but who knows.

Sure thing and another 10 teams can sign him as well. Its all how you want your team built i guess. With 3rd and 4th line centerman is fine. I just tried to do an absolutely fair trade here. Nuge for Fiala and Samurukov and Poolparty for EE

Nuge has more points every year than Fiala. So I am not sure what you are saying and he is 2 way player too.

And this is where I exit this conversation. You don't understand the difference between different players being older or taking different development paths or having different linemates and only look at points? lololol

Yah well you think a winger has more value than a center with the same production. Than I cant help you. 4 years age difference only. Its like comparing Datsyuk and Iginla. Both great player but I take Datsyuk every time. Good luck with the rebuilding of your team. I will find another fair trade that works.

Why? Edmonton was one of the best teams in the league down the stretch and has a very bright future.


Nobody said he would.


Yes, I think they do. Of course, they have another whole season to decide whether or not he's worth it, but at this point I'd put money on Holland being willing to pay him $7M+.


This has nothing to do with me - or re-signing Nuge a year from now. Russell's $4M contract will be done by then.


What is he though? When he got moved to wing (and finally got some decent linemates), his offense exploded. He scored at a pace of 1.37 P/GP over the last 30 games, good for 6th best pace in the NHL.

Usually Defensive centers are not past their prime when they are 27. They usually play until 35 at least. Nuge played with crap players for how many years. I love Nuge and I was thinking about cap space for Oilers here. Jaytea wanted Nuge for Dumba in his post. We dont need more D man and they certainly need centers. Build through the middle. It was a fair trade even if you CD wouldnt do it. It would be hard for Oilers to do as well. Fans would revolt lol

Found it. It is the button beside. "Trade away player rights" So I dont have to sign the player first. Thanks everyone.

1. If the asking price was the good 'ole FC's, I doubt anyone trades for him. Every team already has never-where's or head cases on the roster, not many want more.
2. Sign and trades do not happen.
3. I feel that Edmonton wants the Puljujarvi story to end and would not match any offer sheet that he is given.
4, How can you lose a trade when the guy that you are sending out has no value?

5-ish. You are assuming that other teams want Yakopov v2.0, but nobody does.

Hmm disagree with almost all of this. No way to prove one way or another so its kind of a moot point to say definitively to anything but the only thing I can say is what I would do.

- I still want Puljujarvi. If I was a GM I would still want this guy. I'd like to believe that there is a chance someone else in the NHL shares my thought process on him.
- The sign and trade thing is just in theory. There isn't anything stopping a team from doing it IF they wanted to. Either way this was just to make the 1x3 contract work but that is besides the point here. IDC either way for this it wasn't an important part. I even said JP wouldn't probably sign that. He'd want 1 or max 2 years at that money.
- If Edm wanted the JP thing to end, he'd already be gone...... They lose nothing by keeping him and hoping he turns it around if he's worthless right? They gain at the very least hope for him to dominate to the point someone, like me for example, takes an interest in him. Giving him away for a 7th round pick is pointless.
- JP has value. Value is determined by what someone is willing to pay. If it doesn't match what EDM wants, then the trade doesn't happen, that's all. That doesn't mean he has no value. He doesn't have the value EDM is wanting for him is all. They are keeping the value expected for him high so that future players cannot not just hold out to get what they want.
- Literally two other teams acquired Yakupov after his EDM days. Soooo yeah Im pretty sure there are teams still interested. Just not in the price EDM is willing to let him go for.

No one can prove one way another, can only say what we would do. If I would do it, there's at least a chance another team is also interested. One thing is for sure, you cannot possibly say for sure that no team is interested.

Why are you trading him then? Kings are going to let their young D play next year and don't need someone who is making $4 million for slowing down the team. 1.5 may be the actual cash but the $4 million cap hit is way too high.

We are trading him for the exact reason you said. We have a young D this is Nhl ready and will be brought up. In fact we have so many D right now and our GM just drafted another D in the last draft. Not sure why, but I am not the actual GM and have no control. That is a great idea to play all your young D at once said no one ever. Good luck

Didn't say they were going to play all at once, get the facts straight

Well you got only 4 D signed for next year, so you better get signing.
Doughty
Anderson
Roy
McDermid
But you have 1 RFA in Walker, so you need 3 or 4 more signed or brought up.