I would change the toronto trade to (Kapenan + Dermott) for (Jarry + Simon + 2nd). Cause rn someone proposed a similar trade but Jarry was switched with Murray. And yes I know Jarry did better than murray but 1 Bad year of Murray does not make him less valuable than 1 good year of Jarry as if Murray can do well in the playoffs and produce those amazing numbers his value will increase.

Drop the second from SJ and its not awful. Still dont think we do it though

Dermott would have to be exposed at the expansion draft so I do not know if that is a smart addition. I also think the Pens would like to pick up some picks, since they barely have any in this draft. I do get your idea though. I would like Dermott but unless he outplays Pettersson, we would lose him for nothing in a year down the line.

Appreciate the feedback.

Won't speak for the other fanbases, but I'd say no from a Leafs standpoint. If they're going to go in a different direction for a goalie and Kapanen is a piece moving out for said goalie, they probably look for more of a sure thing. Jarry had a great season, but it was only like 30 games, y'know?

That is fair man. Makes sense.

there also is the option for the penguins to go to seattle and make a deal so they dont take dermott. But I honestly feel If jarry or murray go desmith will be the one exposed as seattle will be looking for a quality backup and at that contract desmith is a steal.

Edmonton would definitely be interested in Jarry, not sure what we’d be willing to give other then Benning or Pujujarvi

DeSmith is definitely an option. Depending on how this summer goes and where players go, guys like Demko/Markstrom, Raanta/Hill, Francouz/Grubauer could be available, which are some solid options as well.

Those two guys could be of interest to the Penguins. I do thing they might also want a pick, but I doubt Edmonton wants to move that 1st. If they do, maybe Puljujarvi, Benning and 2020 1st (EDM) for Jarry, Simon, Riikola and 2020 3rd (PIT).

Flames fan here, tempting offer. Would have to think about it.

Yeah that’s the only reason I don’t think it’s going to work. Unless it’s a big time trade those are really the only pieces that are movable

Thank you for your point of view!

Yeah exactly. Koskinen did have a good season. If they could get a better backup for the next season or two, they could delay their search for a new starter for another 2 years and run Koskinen/new backup, which can be good enough.

Wings trade you choloski for jarry and a 3rd

Dube is kinda turning into that elite 3rd line level player solid top 6 player. Definitely the reason the Lucic - Ryan - Dube line was successful. Its a hard call especially if Dustin Wolf pans out.

Your view on Detroit is spot on from my pov and I think it applies to Murray as well.

If we're trading Jarry to MIN I'm pushing hard for at least JEE and hopefully a pick

That is not something the Pens would do.. Cholowski was barely a full timer in the NHL this past season. Although he would be a good young addition, he would be left unprotected to Seattle. Pens would also not give up Jarry AND a pick. Easy pass for the Pens who could find a much better deal.

That line was definitely one that stood out. The thing with Wolf is he is 19 playing in the WHL, so I am curious to see how he does in the AHL playing against pros. Definitely will need a couple of years however. As for their current tandem, Rittich/Talbot is a good one two punch, but if they want a clear starter, Jarry can be that guy for them. I do think that they will just hang on to their duo for now though.

Appreciate it! Detroit definitely needs a goalie, but I am not sure if a trade, at least with the Pens, makes any sense right now.

Yeah I mentioned that Kunin or Eriksson Ek should be the target. One of those two guys would be an awesome addition. Getting an extra pick would be nice as well, since the Pens do not have a 1st or 2nd in this year's really deep draft.

In my opinion Detroit doesn't just doesn't have enough good pieces in place to be able to trade multiple pieces for one player.

I do not think its about not having the pieces but more about not being willing to part with them. Also, the Pens would be more inclined to pick up current NHLers and not prospects.

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Which of these trades seems most likely?