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Buchnevich trade NYR

Created by: Richard88
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: May 31, 2020
Published: May 31, 2020
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Curious to hear thoughts on a potential trade of Buchnevich to Colorado. What is he worth / what do Rangers want in return for him?

If the trade proposal below is too low then please make a counter-offer. I don't know what Buch is worth so I appreciate feedback.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,000,000
3$2,750,000
2$2,250,000
1$925,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
  2. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
2.
COL
  1. 2021 4th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav [RFA Rights]
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$74,993,095$0$5,425,000$6,506,905
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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May 31, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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As much as I think Zads is a warrior, we just don’t have room for him.
May 31, 2020 at 4:12 p.m.
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Not enough for Buchnevich imo, and Lindgren's play is similar to Zadorov's (from what I've heard)
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May 31, 2020 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Not enough for Buchnevich imo, and Lindgren's play is similar to Zadorov's (from what I've heard)


What would be the ask for Buchevnich then?

As for Lindgren, his playstyle might be similar, but there's an enormous difference between 6'0'' 191lbs and 6'6'' 235lbs...
May 31, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
What would be the ask for Buchevnich then?

As for Lindgren, his playstyle might be similar, but there's an enormous difference between 6'0'' 191lbs and 6'6'' 235lbs...


For a 25 yo 50 pts winger, I think it starts with your 2020 1st but I doubt NYR trades him for futures since they want to contend now and Buchnevich is a big part of their top 6.
May 31, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.
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Buchnevich and Kapanen are both super overrated on this site. They are both 3rd line 40pt players, nothing more nothing less
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May 31, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.
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Lol no thx
May 31, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Buchnevich and Kapanen are both super overrated on this site. They are both 3rd line 40pt players, nothing more nothing less


They bring much more to the table than their PT total.
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May 31, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
For a 25 yo 50 pts winger, I think it starts with your 2020 1st but I doubt NYR trades him for futures since they want to contend now and Buchnevich is a big part of their top 6.


I'm not sure he's worth a 1st. If we're including a 1st in trade proposals then I'd rather target someone the next level up from Buchnevich.
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May 31, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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They bring much more to the table than their PT total.


They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart
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May 31, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart


Pretty much. Once a 1st is on the table you're talking Tatar/Domi/Drouin/Rakell/Reinhart for 1st + prospect type of trade. Buchnevich/Kapanen/Johnsson types simply don't have that value - especially in a flat cap league in an Expansion Draft year.
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May 31, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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lol. Take Zadorov & Jost out, add something of value, then come back
May 31, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart


That’s a spot on assessment. Which isn’t a bad thing at all. Excellent 3rd liners and average 2nd liners.
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May 31, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Lord_Simek
That’s a spot on assessment. Which isn’t a bad thing at all. Excellent 3rd liners and average 2nd liners.


Yeah middle 6 guys mostly. They can play anywhere in the lineup but they support other guys
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May 31, 2020 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
They’re closer to Chris Tierney than guys like Domi/Reinhart


another guy on this site who evaluates players by their pointsrolling eyes
May 31, 2020 at 5:31 p.m.
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Quoting: FreeTacosAreBestTacos
lol. Take Zadorov & Jost out, add something of value, then come back


As I said in the description I'd love to hear a counter proposal. That would be way more constructive than just trashing the proposal.
May 31, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
As I said in the description I'd love to hear a counter proposal. That would be way more constructive than just trashing the proposal.


At the very least a first. Jost was 12th among Colorado F's in TOI/GP (13th if you include Namestnikov), Zadorov was 5th in Dman TOI/GP (with a staggering 4 seconds more than Cole). That does not get you a Top 6 F.
May 31, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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At the very least a first. Jost was 12th among Colorado F's in TOI/GP (13th if you include Namestnikov), Zadorov was 5th in Dman TOI/GP (with a staggering 4 seconds more than Cole). That does not get you a Top 6 F.


Jost is only 12th in ice-time because of how stacked Colorado's roster is. He's also only 22. Most players only break into the league around that age, yet Jost has already played 200+ games and scored 66 points. Lot's of upside.

Zadorov has been a legit top 4 D for most of his time in Colorado, but is now 5th due to the fact that we have a gluttony of riches at LHD.
May 31, 2020 at 6:08 p.m.
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Jost is only 12th in ice-time because of how stacked Colorado's roster is. He's also only 22. Most players only break into the league around that age, yet Jost has already played 200+ games and scored 66 points. Lot's of upside.

Zadorov has been a legit top 4 D for most of his time in Colorado, but is now 5th due to the fact that we have a gluttony of riches at LHD.


If they were better, they'd have been played more. If you're going to use best possible projections, then I'm going to say Buchnevich is a 60-70 pt RW. As is, he's far and away the Rangers best current RW. He's also cheaper than the pair of them now, BEFORE they demand raises. Unless you're trading a 1st or Girard for him, there's probably no deal to be made
May 31, 2020 at 6:18 p.m.
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Honestly if you swap Buch with Strome, it's an interesting offer.
May 31, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Honestly if you swap Buch with Strome, it's an interesting offer.


We've already been through that in the earlier AGM's today... wink
 
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