We are fine with that.

Edit: SJ would be interested in both Kerfoot and Andreas

I would usually disagree I am not a Kerfoot fan but he might be the fit we need on 3C

But kerfoot can play on the wing. And with either couture or hertl he would be nice

@Boomer125 :"Here's the reality Kerfoot is not some spare part in TO, he is their only viable 3C, so unless it's a Top 4 D . . . or a better 3C falls in their lap, I don't really see a scenario where the Leafs move Kerfoot for . . . futures which they also don't really need."

You've tried to shore up the RD by acquiring Braun, which is a good idea. But any good free agent RD is going to come at a sensible price. The realities of Toronto's economics plus the right side of the defense virtually compel trading two of your third line, which is a shame. I'm with you -- Holl, Lehtonen and Liljegren probably aren't enough to get it done.

This is probably not the place to ask you this but thoughts on

Heinen for Middlestat and 3rd rounder?

I think that both teams should settle down and see what they've got. We only had Heinen for 9 games and aren't sure where to put him or who to put him with. To me, he looks like he could be a top-6 forward. (I think that down the road, he could be Trevor Zegras' LW. But so could Sonny Milano or Braden Tracey.) And Buffalo shouldn't give up on Mittelstadt yet.

I get it.
I was trying to be creative with something

Thanks.

No harm in creativity. The situation of some teams will require creativity to get them out therefrom. It remains to be seen whether those teams' management has the requisite creativity.

I think Kerfoot and Johnsson are most likely gone because

1. Robertson is gonna get a robertson (90% sure). I think Dubas has some good faith in him
2. Johnsson and Kerfoot barley played the season. We didn't have them that much and are offense was still one of the best. I think we can afford to lose both of them

I would not put him in the top 6.

that is one hell of a downgrade in the bottom 6, Jankowski is very bad.

Kerfoot is better but for minutes he plays and if Jankowski can come in at 2 million and just not get scored on then he's a fine 3C

no, he's not, he is very very bad. He'd be a not good option as a 4C the way he played last year, and he might be an ok 4C if he turns it around.

By signing Braun, you had to sacrifice Kerfoot. Jankowski just isn't that good. Leafs can go with Sandin and/or Liljegren on defence

The leafs went almost the whole year without Johnsson. We really don't need him especially with Robertson coming up.
Same with Kerfoot. The best part is our offense was one of the best in the league.

I feel Sandin and Liljegren should develop for one more year. If we want to we can call them up mid season and trade Dermott

after Johnson the Leafs LW depth is a guy with 29 games, a guy who might be a 3rd liner and a raw rookie who might not be NHL ready. They dont "need" him, but trading him for a middling pick just to trade him is kinda pointless unless you are upgrading the roster somewhere else and are super crazy desparate for capspace.

After Kerfoot, the leafs literally dont have another 3C, and replacing him with a guy like Jankowski who is not even a 3rd liner on top of trading Johnsson basically guts the bottom 6 for no reason except 'but thu cap spayce!" and is a dumb move because it makes the team worse. This is a terrible downgrade for the roster

Why trade Dermot? He's steady and has been forced to play with a Russian rookie, and Ceci in the past two years. Leafs don't have much NHL Dman depth, I say Dermot's a keeper especially on a. modest contract.

If Dermott isn't working out is what I meant. If Sandin and Liljy look like studs then we should




We can afford to downgrade are offense. I would do it if its an upgrade on defense

except that it's not just a downgrade on offense, it's a down grade on defence too. If you have a worse bottom 6, that puts more strain on the rest of your lineup to compensate. The additions would have to make up for that, and the proposed trade doesnt add near enough. Jankowski is that terrible.

????? Johnsson played in 43 of Leafs 70 games. Kerfoot played in 65 games Hardly the whole season. Robertson hasn't shown he is NHL ready. Leafs need a dependable 3C, especially if Tavares or Matthews are injured. You wouldn't want 4th Jankowski trying to fill those shoes...skates.