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3 1-for-1 Trade Ideas

Created by: Richard88
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2020
Published: Jul. 2, 2020
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Free Agent Signings
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4$5,000,000
3$2,750,000
3$2,250,000
1$925,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Rykov, Yegor
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Rangers have a glut of LHD's and Rykov is stuck in the depth chart, so it may make sense to trade him for a young forward.

Colorado need a 7D this offseason, and if Rykov (and Byram/Timmins) do well then that may potentially make Graves expendable in a trade for a top 6 forward.
NYR
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav [RFA Rights]
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Kamenev could do with a new opportunity, particularly as Colorado are deep at forward/center.
2.
LAK
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
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Alternatively for futures if LA prefer (eg. pick + prospect)
3.
COL
  1. Wilde, Bode
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Colorado are pretty shallow at RHD beyond Timmins, and it makes sense to acquire a RHD with a view of replacing Johnson by 2023.
NYI
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
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NYI are really deep at RHD (Pulock /Dobson / Mayfield/ Boychuk/ Wilde), and could do with a solid cheap young forward like Jost to help them stay under the cap.
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Iafallo has a solid season but to but compare him to Bura based on point totals is a bit of a stretch. Hes goign to be a 27 year old pending UFA next season and his 0.61 ppg last season (17 goals). Bura is still an RFA with 2 years of RFA control left and put up a ppg of 0.78 last season (20 goals)

age and considering contract control left and looking at their ppg....they arent close to equivalent seasons IMO. ppg and goals per game are at a complete different level
if you dont consider points per game then Iafallo "has a simliar season" to Rantanen who had 41pts (if 42 games)


Yeah I know is a stretch, but I think it's more impressive to score 43 points in bad team of LA than 45 points in the good team of COL.

Then again Iafallo had more ice time and weren't injured.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:06 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Iafallo has a solid season but to but compare him to Bura based on point totals is a bit of a stretch. Hes goign to be a 27 year old pending UFA next season and his 0.61 ppg last season (17 goals). Bura is still an RFA with 2 years of RFA control left and put up a ppg of 0.78 last season (20 goals)

age and considering contract control left and looking at their ppg....they arent close to equivalent seasons IMO. ppg and goals per game are at a complete different level
if you dont consider points per game then Iafallo "has a simliar season" to Rantanen who had 41pts (if 42 games)


Iafallo also played 18:56 ATOI this season compared to Burakovsky 15:12 ATOI. So he got 24.5% more icetime, and still scored at a pace of 13.3 points/82 games less.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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Yeah I know is a stretch, but I think it's more impressive to score 43 points in bad team of LA than 45 points in the good team of COL.

Then again Iafallo had more ice time and weren't injured.


43 vs 45 points doesn't sound like a big difference, but when you factor in the PPG, ATOI, and games played there's a huge difference between them.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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Yeah I know is a stretch, but I think it's more impressive to score 43 points in bad team of LA than 45 points in the good team of COL.

Then again Iafallo had more ice time and weren't injured.


he had a great season, but that happens even on the bad teams. Someone has to score. Its like Blake Coleman in NJ before being traded, that was a bad team as well and he was getting the 3rd most Icetime out of the forwards. A bit of fools goal when guys like that on bad teams who play more than they ever have in their career start to produce more. They arent turning into 2nd line wingers at 27-28 years old.

I like Iafallo but hes a 3rd line Winger and I think thats pretty fair for Zadorov who on the Avs was playing around 4th/5th out of Dman in terms of TOI and 5v5 Icetime. He would be a 2nd pairing Dman on other teams. Fringe 2nd pairing Dman for tweener middle 6 winger. IMO thats pretty fair for a pure hockey trade
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
43 vs 45 points doesn't sound like a big difference, but when you factor in the PPG, ATOI, and games played there's a huge difference between them.


Bura scored 20 vs Iafallo 17. factor in goals per game. Its not close.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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he had a great season, but that happens even on the bad teams. Someone has to score. Its like Blake Coleman in NJ before being traded, that was a bad team as well and he was getting the 3rd most Icetime out of the forwards. A bit of fools goal when guys like that on bad teams who play more than they ever have in their career start to produce more. They arent turning into 2nd line wingers at 27-28 years old.

I like Iafallo but hes a 3rd line Winger and I think thats pretty fair for Zadorov who on the Avs was playing around 4th/5th out of Dman in terms of TOI and 5v5 Icetime. He would be a 2nd pairing Dman on other teams. Fringe 2nd pairing Dman for tweener middle 6 winger. IMO thats pretty fair for a pure hockey trade


Well if you wanna use Coleman as a trade value comparison, he got Foote+1st.

Naturally I don't think Iafallo will land a same package, but I think Zadorov is not going to be enough.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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43 vs 45 points doesn't sound like a big difference, but when you factor in the PPG, ATOI, and games played there's a huge difference between them.


Indeed.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Well if you wanna use Coleman as a trade value comparison, he got Foote+1st.

Naturally I don't think Iafallo will land a same package, but I think Zadorov is not going to be enough.


thats bc he cost next to nothing in a cap hit for the Lighting to plug a guy in their top 9 (they are desperate for cheap cap hits to keep their team togethe). If Coleman was making 3m aav he wouldnt get that return from the lightning and they had to out bid boston and the avs who were in on him as well. Deseprate teams make bad trades, doesnt mean its market value. That was just a unique trade, same as why did the lighting trade another 1st for Goodrow....bc he has another year on his contract as 950k.
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
I think I prefer Komarov. He's $500k cheaper which makes a difference. Maybe I'd reconsider if you retained at least $500k on Clutterbuck though.

The way I see it:

My previous proposal which I think is pretty fair: Wilde + Komarov = 3rd

Jost's value = 2nd + 3rd

Ergo, Wilde + Komarov + 2nd = Jost

I know that NYI don't have a 2nd until 2022, but perhaps an alternative solution could be found:

For example, if you want it to be a 3rd instead of a 2nd then retain a little bit on Komarov ( I know you probably won't want to retain too much before it becomes not worth it as he can be buried to save like $1m).

Another alternative instead of a 2nd is to include a swap of picks, like COL 2021 1st and NYI 2021 1st - with Colorado getting to choose between the NYI pick if it ends up higher, or just taking a 3rd as in your proposal.


So the options are:

- Wilde for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov, 2022 2nd for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov ($500K retained), 2021 3rd for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov, 2021 1st for Jost, 2021 1st

I would do any of them but the last one.
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Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.
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Isles are deep but not good on RHD yet to trade Wilde.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.
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So the options are:

- Wilde for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov, 2022 2nd for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov ($500K retained), 2021 3rd for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov, 2021 1st for Jost, 2021 1st

I would do any of them but the last one.


Interesting. I'd really like to get a 2nd to mitigate the risk. Jost has plenty of upside still, and taking on a cap dump and an unproven prospect doesn't seem worth it for just a 3rd, especially since it's a year away.

Still, I think there's a nice deal here, just not sure which one is the best alternative. I've made an AGM with these 4 trades to gauge opinion on it: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm
Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
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Iafallo would have gotten 50 points had the season not ended. He is a top 6 LW on almost any team. If Coleman and Goodrow can fetch a first, there is certainly a team out there that would give up a 1st for Iafallo.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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Iafallo also played 18:56 ATOI this season compared to Burakovsky 15:12 ATOI. So he got 24.5% more icetime, and still scored at a pace of 13.3 points/82 games less.


There are variables to statistics, try looking at them. Iafallo has been on an awful rebuilding team and Burakovsky has not.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 12:31 p.m.
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There are variables to statistics, try looking at them. Iafallo has been on an awful rebuilding team and Burakovsky has not.


Awful team or not, Iafallo is still playing 19:00 with Kopitar and Brown. Regardless of what the other 3 lines do that's still a pretty great opportunity to put up points, especially since more often than not it's Doughty who's anchoring the blueline behind those 3 forwards.
Jul. 2, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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Awful team or not, Iafallo is still playing 19:00 with Kopitar and Brown. Regardless of what the other 3 lines do that's still a pretty great opportunity to put up points, especially since more often than not it's Doughty who's anchoring the blueline behind those 3 forwards.


Good line bad defense. Doughty has had no help. Hard to produce when you're not often on the rush
Jul. 2, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
Thanks, glad you like it!

As you mentioned, I figure that NYR have a spot at 4C open, and Kamenev will be pretty cheap. He might even be able to push for a 3C spot if Strome is traded and Chytil is bumped up to 2C.

From Colorado's perspective, Kamenev is lost in the depth chart, and given that we have Kaut, Newhook, and Bowers coming through by 2021 it's unlikely that Kamenev will be given the minutes he needs to succeed.

Kamenev also isn't waiver exempt so we can't really give him a bigger role in the AHL either, and I think he'd be likely to bolt for the KHL if we pencil him in as 13th forward again. Conversely, Rykov is waiver exempt for one more year which gives us some more roster flexibility in 2020/21. Rykov also has the potential to fill a 6/7 D role on the team as soon as 2020/21.

Things also worked out pretty great for us the last time we acquired a LHD prospect from NYR... sarcasm


True but Rykov is a little older but it is a necessary trade!
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