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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:39 pm
Thread: Which of these NYI-COL trades would each team do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Jost is not a bust, farthest thing from it. If you want to say hes underwhelming sure but hes a solid 3rd line NHLer who makes an impact in terms, his underlying numbers for shot suppression and supporting offence with zone entries....he makes positive impacts when he plays.

he is one of the better 1st round forwards from his draft class, which is super weak, but doesnt make him a bust. Hes goign to stick around in the NHL for some time in a defensive PK type role. If his offence ever becomes more consistent he will be that teams token fan favourite working class player

Wilde seemed to have a disaster development season last year in the AHL and went back to Junior. I know hes young and still has potential but thats not what you want to see in an important Dev year. You can say you love the potential more bc its more tempting but Jost is not a bust, hes an effective NHLer at 22 years old</div></div>

Wilde's injury was bad for his season, but Devon Toews and Calvin deHaan had similar injuries in the AHL, and they turned out completely fine. It's something you can make a full recovery from and not have it affect your game. If the Avalanche like the prospect and are confident in his future, they shouldn't be scared off by his injury.

What you said about Jost is very interesting. Someone I'd definitely be interested in.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:13 am
Thread: 3 1-for-1 Trade Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>I think I prefer Komarov. He's $500k cheaper which makes a difference. Maybe I'd reconsider if you retained at least $500k on Clutterbuck though.

The way I see it:

My previous proposal which I think is pretty fair: Wilde + Komarov = 3rd

Jost's value = 2nd + 3rd

Ergo, Wilde + Komarov + 2nd = Jost

I know that NYI don't have a 2nd until 2022, but perhaps an alternative solution could be found:

For example, if you want it to be a 3rd instead of a 2nd then retain a little bit on Komarov ( I know you probably won't want to retain too much before it becomes not worth it as he can be buried to save like $1m).

Another alternative instead of a 2nd is to include a swap of picks, like COL 2021 1st and NYI 2021 1st - with Colorado getting to choose between the NYI pick if it ends up higher, or just taking a 3rd as in your proposal.</div></div>

So the options are:

- Wilde for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov, 2022 2nd for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov ($500K retained), 2021 3rd for Jost
- Wilde, Komarov, 2021 1st for Jost, 2021 1st

I would do any of them but the last one.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 10:14 am
Thread: 3 1-for-1 Trade Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SuckMyAvs</b></div><div>I think the organization views Jost as a valuable piece of the puzzle and isn't looking to move him. Their patience is starting to pay off, and I don't think they change course now.

Don't get me wrong on Wilde, I like his potential and would be happy to have him in the system. I have concerns, but that is what made him a second round pick. High reward guys are a good idea at around where he went in the draft. The main thing for me is that I don't think he provides what the Avs need right now. If they could get him for a decent forward prospect like Beaucage or Mutala then I could be into it, but I wouldn't move a valuable piece of the current roster.</div></div>

Makes total sense. I think if Wilde has a nice year in the AHL next year, he could be ready for the NHL for 2021-22.

I would also just accept the Wilde-for-Jost deal that was originally offered if the Avalanche don't feel comfortable taking on salary in a Jost deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 10:04 am
Thread: 3 1-for-1 Trade Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>Thanks for sharing your thoughts. How far away from the NHL do you think Wilde is?

Given the uncertainty with Wilde (he's still only a prospect and coming off an injury riddled D+1 season) and the fact that Komarov is a cap dump I think it would be foolish for Colorado to trade Jost for that package, because all the risk is on Colorado's side (both due to taking a capdump to tie up cap space, and because Wilde is unproven).

That said, I wouldn't mind acquiring Komarov if we can get Wilde, assuming that we don't find another way to use that excess capspace in 2020/21. As it happens I actually suggested a trade like that in the two AGM's below, with the trade being Wilde + Komarov for 2021 COL 3rd / 2020 TOR 3rd. What do you think of that idea?

<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/335656">https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/335656</a>

<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/335519">https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/335519</a></div></div>

I actually meant Clutterbuck, not Komarov. But regardless, I see what you mean. I'd add a 3rd to Wilde and Clutterbuck/Komarov for Jost if that works.

Wilde, Clutterbuck/Komarov, 3rd for Jost.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 9:40 am
Thread: 3 1-for-1 Trade Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.

1) Yes, Jost has primarily played LW for Colorado, as we've run with Mackinnon/Kadri/Compher/Bellemare down the middle most nights. Jost has slotted in seamlessly to C whenever we've had injury issues though. He's a very versatile player who can plug holes all over the lineup which makes him very useful (eg. can play LW/RW/C, can play a bottom 6 role, and can also play a top 6 role, along with both PP and PK). His career takeaway/giveaways is 71/31 which highlights that he's very responsible defensively. The only knock on him as a C is that he's bad at faceoffs, but that issue is completely irrelevant when he plays on the wing.

2) Yes I figured as much. Jost would replace one of your more expensive forwards (eg. Clutterbuck?) and thus save you like $1-2m in capspace while potentially also providing a nice little upgrade in your bottom 6.

I'm curious what the NYI fan view of Bode Wilde is after his 1st season? Has his stock risen or fallen since being drafted? I recall that he was ranked in the mid-teens on some prominent draft rankings but haven't followed him much since.</div></div>

Would the Avalanche do Wilde and Komarov for Jost and a 4th?

I'm still a fan of Bode Wilde. He was a projected 1st round pick, has great size, right-handed, had a great junior career. He just had a bad year last year due to injury. I believe he had a very similar injury to Devon Toews and Calvin deHaan, both of whom got hurt in the AHL before jumping to the NHL, and both of whom ended up being legit top-4 defensemen in the NHL after a year of rehabbing. Wilde will bounce back, but given our RHD depth (Pulock-Dobson-Mayfield-Boychuk), he's expendable. I'd keep him no problem if we can find other ways to get rid of our bad contracts.