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3 way trade -- BUF-TBL-VAN

Created by: alwaysnextyear
Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 3, 2020
Published: Jul. 3, 2020
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Description
Given the new economic reality it's going to be very expensive for cap-strapped teams to dump bad contracts. Instead, this 3-way trade addresses needs for each team by trading some high-end pieces;

BUF -- Get an elite young winger to line up beside Eichel. Ideally they'd want a C if they give up the 8th overall pick, but between guys like Reinhart, Johansson and Cozens I think they'll be able to find a decent combo on their 2nd line. The bottom line is this addition would make Eichel very happy.

TBL -- Has maybe the tightest cap crunch in the league this offseason, and need to move at least two significant contracts to properly field a team. I'm sure they would love to keep young guys like Sergachev and Cirelli while dumping Gourde and a couple other forwards, but the reality is that a guy like Sergachev can get them a high pick and their LHD is already very solid with Hedman and McDonagh. They'll also probably be able to re-sign Shattenkirk at a very reasonable rate to fill out their top 4.

VAN -- Also in a cap crunch due to Benning's habit of overpaying depth players in free agency. If they can't move Eriksson this year there will be almost no way they can sign Markstrom AND a top 4 Dman. Instead this trade is talent-for-talent to address a positional need on the blueline. This is about the only type of deal I could see VAN management parting with Boeser for; a core young piece that helps now and the future. This also means the team will be banking on committee contributions from forwards that didn't give much last season. A healthy and effective Ferland would go a long way to help in that regard as he could play the grinder role with more talented top 6 guys that he was originally signed for. If he's not healthy he'll go back on LTIR and VAN can sign a stop-gap forward for a year.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,500,000
2$2,750,000
2$2,750,000
2$2,750,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,500,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
*8th overall pick*
BUF
  1. Boeser, Brock
Additional Details:
3-way trade; BUF-TBL-VAN
2.
VAN
  1. Sergachev, Mikhail [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
3-way trade; BUF-TBL-VAN
TBL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
*8th overall pick*
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,076,878$1,700,000$3,700,000$1,423,122
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,366,666$3,366,666
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
G
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
G
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,375,000$4,375,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jul. 3, 2020 at 4:37 p.m.
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Just going to go ahead and comment before @brocklesnar tells me the Canucks "are not trading Boeser", haha.

This is about the only type of trade where I'd want to see Boeser moved; to balance the forward-to-Dman talent ratio a bit better. A core built around Petey-Horvat-Miller up front and Hughes-Sergachev on the back end would be very solid moving forward.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 4:42 p.m.
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Tampa isn't trading Mikhail Sergachev for the #8 pick, Tampa is in win now mode. And like i've stated numerous times picks mean absolutely nothing to them. For 3x4.5 Sergachev stays in Tampa.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Tampa isn't trading Mikhail Sergachev for the #8 pick, Tampa is in win now mode. And like i've stated numerous times picks mean absolutely nothing to them. For 3x4.5 Sergachev stays in Tampa.


I'm sure they will try to keep him. But given the flat cap and no CBO they're going to have to make some very hard decisions. They would be able to get an impact prospect at #8. And as I mentioned in the description I think their blueline can still be strong even if Sergachev is moved.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 4:53 p.m.
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It’s tempting, but you can just put Eichel with Skinner again and it will likely be the same result. A 2c is a bigger need than a top 6 RW. Plus Boeser has little term left.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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It’s tempting, but you can just put Eichel with Skinner again and it will likely be the same result. A 2c is a bigger need than a top 6 RW. Plus Boeser has little term left.


Boeser is way better than Skinner, and he's still an RFA in two years so BUF retains his rights and could sign him long-term.
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Jul. 3, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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I'm sure they will try to keep him. But given the flat cap and no CBO they're going to have to make some very hard decisions. They would be able to get an impact prospect at #8. And as I mentioned in the description I think their blueline can still be strong even if Sergachev is moved.


Killorn will definitely be gone since he has a Mod-NTC now 14 teams he can be traded to. Yeah one of Gourde/Johnson/Palat will need to moved as well. Julien Brisebois will try and hold onto both Cirelli and Sergachev and probably move cernak. It's going to be tough and will probably take an offer sheet on all 3 RFAs to get it done.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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Boeser is way better than Skinner, and he's still an RFA in two years so BUF retains his rights and could sign him long-term.


Idk. Skinner scored 40 with Eichel in 2018-2019 than he was playing with Curtis Lazar. I think they are going to keep the 2020 pick, and trade the 2021 first round pick line what Vancouver did last season.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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Boeser is way better than Skinner, and he's still an RFA in two years so BUF retains his rights and could sign him long-term.


No he isnt
Jul. 3, 2020 at 5:06 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Killorn will definitely be gone since he has a Mod-NTC now 14 teams he can be traded to. Yeah one of Gourde/Johnson/Palat will need to moved as well. Julien Brisebois will try and hold onto both Cirelli and Sergachev and probably move cernak. It's going to be tough and will probably take an offer sheet on all 3 RFAs to get it done.


You've laid out the best-case scenario for them. I agree Killorn will definitely be moved, but given the cap situation they'll probably receive next to nothing for him or any of the other 3 forwards you listed because teams will know that TBL has to make room. On the other hand, If they could return a strong top 4D of Hedman, McD, Cernak and Shatty I think they'd be in a position of strength to move Sergachev for future help, whether it's a prospect or high pick. Brisebois has to try to balance winning now with adding good young pieces on ELC's in the next few years too.
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No he isnt


By almost any metric, stat line, age, or contract... yes he is.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 5:10 p.m.
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Idk. Skinner scored 40 with Eichel in 2018-2019 than he was playing with Curtis Lazar. I think they are going to keep the 2020 pick, and trade the 2021 first round pick line what Vancouver did last season.


Yeah they might go that route instead, and it might be the better choice. But the 8th overall this year would definitely get them a better player than their 2021 pick.
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Jul. 3, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
You've laid out the best-case scenario for them. I agree Killorn will definitely be moved, but given the cap situation they'll probably receive next to nothing for him or any of the other 3 forwards you listed because teams will know that TBL has to make room. On the other hand, If they could return a strong top 4D of Hedman, McD, Cernak and Shatty I think they'd be in a position of strength to move Sergachev for future help, whether it's a prospect or high pick. Brisebois has to try to balance winning now with adding good young pieces on ELC's in the next few years too.


GMs have to work with each other they are not going to screw Tampa over, they might have some leverage but it won't be the Lightning getting screwed. The Lightning will get fair to decent value for whatever player/asset they have to move.

Yzerman said when he was the GM in Tampa a few years back in a interview locally here in Tampa that when it comes to trades you make the best deal you can while being fair with all assets in the trade. He felt like there is no taking advantage of any situation because he has to consistently work with all the other GMs.

Cirelli is the 2C, Sergachev is the heir apparent to Hedman. They will do everything they can to keep both of these guys.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 6:08 p.m.
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Boeser is way better than Skinner, and he's still an RFA in two years so BUF retains his rights and could sign him long-term.

I like Boesser, but the Sabres need centers. Teams are built from the middle out. They don’t need more wingers.
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GMs have to work with each other they are not going to screw Tampa over, they might have some leverage but it won't be the Lightning getting screwed. The Lightning will get fair to decent value for whatever player/asset they have to move.

Yzerman said when he was the GM in Tampa a few years back in a interview locally here in Tampa that when it comes to trades you make the best deal you can while being fair with all assets in the trade. He felt like there is no taking advantage of any situation because he has to consistently work with all the other GMs.

Cirelli is the 2C, Sergachev is the heir apparent to Hedman. They will do everything they can to keep both of these guys.


It’s not about “screwing a team over”, it’s about simple market forces. Tampa, amongst other teams, has to move salary and everyone knows it. Given that the guys TBL will want to move all have some form of trade clause, that already limits the field of potential partners. Out of those remaining teams they have to have the cap space (which a lot of contending teams don’t) and the desire to make an offer. Like Yzerman said, you make the best deal you can, but the best offer this offseason for guys like Killorn or Johnson won’t be anywhere near what it would’ve been a year ago because of the new economic outlook. That’s all I was saying.
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I'm sure they will try to keep him. But given the flat cap and no CBO they're going to have to make some very hard decisions. They would be able to get an impact prospect at #8. And as I mentioned in the description I think their blueline can still be strong even if Sergachev is moved.


. . . . . Tampa has been looking to add a top 4 d-man for awhile. How does moving Sergachev for a pick make that any stronger?
Jul. 3, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.
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. . . . . Tampa has been looking to add a top 4 d-man for awhile. How does moving Sergachev for a pick make that any stronger?


I didn’t say they would be stronger, I said if they can get Shatty and Cernak signed at reasonable cap hit then they’d still have a strong top 4.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 8:00 p.m.
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Just going to go ahead and comment before @brocklesnar tells me the Canucks "are not trading Boeser", haha.

This is about the only type of trade where I'd want to see Boeser moved; to balance the forward-to-Dman talent ratio a bit better. A core built around Petey-Horvat-Miller up front and Hughes-Sergachev on the back end would be very solid moving forward.


Your correct VAN is not moving Boeser, nor is Tampa interested in moving Sergachev.
Jul. 3, 2020 at 8:14 p.m.
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That is not a three way trade, that's two trades that just build off each other
Jul. 3, 2020 at 9:57 p.m.
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How about Lindell from Dallas instead of Sergachev. Dallas can afford to move him with Miro, Harley, and Oleksiak on LD. Dallas could use a good pick.
Jul. 4, 2020 at 2:42 a.m.
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How about Lindell from Dallas instead of Sergachev. Dallas can afford to move him with Miro, Harley, and Oleksiak on LD. Dallas could use a good pick.


Lindell could be of interest to VAN, but they wouldn’t give up the same return as they would for Sergachev.
 
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