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Barzal Again Plus Hall

Created by: BurnEmUp
Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2020
Published: Jul. 21, 2020
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Description
Flames 2020 1st round they draft 8th OA (BUF) and roughly 13th OA (VAN) & 16th OA (CGY) depending on play-ins and playoffs.

Mackenzie's list:

8th - LD - Jake Sanderson
13th - C/RW - Dawson Mercer
16th - C/LW - Dylan Holloway

No 1st round picks in 2022, 2023 and 2024, but offsetting that by picking in the 1st round 5 times in 2020 and 2021 combined, 8 picks total in the first two rounds of 2020 and 2022 combined.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$11,000,000
3$2,500,000
1$787,500
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,000,000
1$2,500,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$2,750,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Sanderson, Jake
3$925,000
Mercer, Dawson
3$925,000
Holloway, Dylan
3$925,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Barzal, Mathew$15,400,000No Compensation
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
  2. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
2.
CGY
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Sanheim, Travis
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
3.
CGY
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. 2020 1st round pick (VAN)
4.
CGY
    To show the compensation to the Isles for the Barzal offer sheet
    NYI
    1. 2021 1st round pick (CGY)
    2. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
    Additional Details:
    2023 1st round pick (CGY)
    2024 1st round pick (CGY)
    5.
    CGY
    1. 2021 2nd round pick (CBJ)
    Additional Details:
    To any team for a pick
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
    Logo of the CGY
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    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the CGY
    2021
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the CBJ
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the CGY
    2022
    Logo of the CGY
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    Logo of the CGY
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$74,948,332$0$882,500$6,551,668

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $4,850,000$4,850,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $5,350,000$5,350,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    $863,333$863,333
    C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $925,000$925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $3,125,000$3,125,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $733,333$733,333
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $750,000$750,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $787,500$787,500
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $3,375,000$3,375,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $1,375,000$1,375,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $4,550,000$4,550,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $750,000$750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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    Two first?!
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:24 p.m.
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    Yeah don't see Bennett getting a 2nd, A 3rd perhaps.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:24 p.m.
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    Yeah don't see Bennett getting a 2nd, A 3rd perhaps.
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:27 p.m.
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    Philly has no reason to do this. Not gonna get into value as it just starts pissing matches.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Two first?!


    Yeah, I would say. The guy was taken 6th overall himself, is still just 25 and has averaged 30g/60p+ for 6 straight seasons. He's also signed for 3 more seasons for less than a $6.5 million AAV. If anything that return is light, but because this years is 8th OA and it's supposedly a good draft I figured that would do. C's of that quality don't go cheaply, they usually don't go at all.

    He'll also draw easier match ups than he ever did in Calgary now that he's 2nd in line behind Eichel.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Brigid1011
    Philly has no reason to do this. Not gonna get into value as it just starts pissing matches.


    They have no reason not to. They are deep at C, and deep on LHD and most of all, they are getting the best player in this deal and it's not even close.

    I get that they are also deep on LW, but the only guy on LW who can compare to Gaudreau on the Flyers is Giroux, who they could put back at C if they wanted to which make a deadly top 9. Plus Gaudreau has played RW at the worlds on US teams that were stacked on LW and never misses a beat.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Yeah don't see Bennett getting a 2nd, A 3rd perhaps.


    Late 2nd, early 3rd. It's a pretty minor part of this AGM anyways lol
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:45 p.m.
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    Am I alone in thinking that I’d rather have Gaudreau + Monahan + 6 mil cap space > Barzel + Hall
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: BurnEmUp
    Yeah, I would say. The guy was taken 6th overall himself, is still just 25 and has averaged 30g/60p+ for 6 straight seasons. He's also signed for 3 more seasons for less than a $6.5 million AAV. If anything that return is light, but because this years is 8th OA and it's supposedly a good draft I figured that would do. C's of that quality don't go cheaply, they usually don't go at all.

    He'll also draw easier match ups than he ever did in Calgary now that he's 2nd in line behind Eichel.


    But he'll have considerably less PP time which makes up 30%+ of his production, so youre going to trade 2 firsts for a guy that will produce 30% less than what youre trading for. Makes no sense, Buffalo declines
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: BurnEmUp
    They have no reason not to. They are deep at C, and deep on LHD and most of all, they are getting the best player in this deal and it's not even close.

    I get that they are also deep on LW, but the only guy on LW who can compare to Gaudreau on the Flyers is Giroux, who they could put back at C if they wanted to which make a deadly top 9. Plus Gaudreau has played RW at the worlds on US teams that were stacked on LW and never misses a beat.



    Our Centre depth after Coots and Hayes is weak. Patrick is an unknown. Laughton isn’t good at Centre. Frost is an important piece long term. Giroux doesn’t and hasn’t played Centre in quite a while.

    The difference between Giroux and Gaudreau doesn’t warrant the Flyers giving up Sanheim ,Frost and a first. Like I said.....we have no reason to do this.


    Then there’s the salary cap. We can’t afford him.
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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    I like the moves but too much for Barzal. I would get 10.568 x 5 which I believe is the max for 2x1sts 2nd and a 3rd. If they match..., offersheet pulock.

    Keep hanafin!!!
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    But he'll have considerably less PP time which makes up 30%+ of his production, so youre going to trade 2 firsts for a guy that will produce 30% less than what youre trading for. Makes no sense, Buffalo declines


    Why would you not have him on the pp with Eichel? I would.
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: McRanteskog
    Am I alone in thinking that I’d rather have Gaudreau + Monahan + 6 mil cap space > Barzel + Hall


    It's a lot more complicated than that though.

    The Barzal offer sheet cost us four 1st round picks, trading those two also added back Sanheim, Frost and three 1st round picks. Adding Sanheim led to Hanifin being dealt for expansion draft considerations which added another 1st and Boqvist.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    But he'll have considerably less PP time which makes up 30%+ of his production, so youre going to trade 2 firsts for a guy that will produce 30% less than what youre trading for. Makes no sense, Buffalo declines


    Why would he have considerably less PP time? You should probably play him on the 1st PP if he's productive on it and scores 30 goals a year.

    Incredible that the fan of a team who's biggest hole is at 2C would reject adding a C like Monahan in favor of two 1st round picks that will likely never be as good as Monahan, and even if they are it will take 2-3 years to see it and by then Eichel will be 26, 27 and probably forcing his way out of there because he's tired of waiting for the team to get better.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.
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    Why would he have considerably less PP time? You should probably play him on the 1st PP if he's productive on it and scores 30 goals a year.


    Hes not taking Eichels spot
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Hes not taking Eichels spot


    Who said he's taking Eichel's spot?
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:58 p.m.
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    Why would you not have him on the pp with Eichel? I would.


    They have Olofsson at LW. Youre still not putting Monahan in the same position hes was playing in Calgary anyway and you now dont have a center for the 2nd unit
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 6:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Brigid1011
    Our Centre depth after Coots and Hayes is weak. Patrick is an unknown. Laughton isn’t good at Centre. Frost is an important piece long term. Giroux doesn’t and hasn’t played Centre in quite a while.

    The difference between Giroux and Gaudreau doesn’t warrant the Flyers giving up Sanheim ,Frost and a first. Like I said.....we have no reason to do this.


    Then there’s the salary cap. We can’t afford him.


    The difference between Giroux and Gaudreau has nothing to do with this, you'd have both not one or the other. Anyways, I'm sure there are many Flyers fans that would do this in a heartbeat. It's a great deal.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    They have Olofsson at LW. Youre still not putting Monahan in the same position hes was playing in Calgary anyway and you now dont have a center for the 2nd unit


    Whatever, I'm sure many Sabres fans would love to add a 25 year old 2C who's averaged 60+ points for the last 6 seasons instead of keeping the picks, especially since you still have Cozens in the system too. It's a great deal for the Sabres, and fills a need.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
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    Whatever, I'm sure many Sabres fans would love to add a 25 year old 2C who's averaged 60+ points for the last 6 seasons instead of keeping the picks, especially since you still have Cozens in the system too. It's a great deal for the Sabres, and fills a need.


    Yeah exactly they have Cozens, so they only need a stop gap and dont need to spend so much on a center that walks in 3 years
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Yeah exactly they have Cozens, so they only need a stop gap and dont need to spend so much on a center that walks in 3 years


    Cozens “should” be great. But 3 years might be what it takes him to become a good 2c. I mean 2 1sts for Monahan isn’t that bad and it’s a pretty good fit.

    Leafs load up their pp and it works great. Put them out for 1:30 hell 2min.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:15 p.m.
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    Cozens “should” be great. But 3 years might be what it takes him to become a good 2c. I mean 2 1sts for Monahan isn’t that bad and it’s a pretty good fit.

    Leafs load up their pp and it works great. Put them out for 1:30 hell 2min.


    So what if Cozens isnt great and Monahan walks and that 2021 first becomes a great top 6 forward. Its short sighted and doesnt make sense. Sabres can get a cheaper stop gap
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
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    Nah
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    Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    So what if Cozens isnt great and Monahan walks and that 2021 first becomes a great top 6 forward. Its short sighted and doesnt make sense. Sabres can get a cheaper stop gap


    LOL, you are out of your F-ing mind if you think the Sabres would turn this deal down. They've been treading water for a bloody decade, their franchise center publicly expressed frustration at the lack of progress that's been shown and they jettisoned everything and everybody that wasn't nailed down. If someone calls them and offers them a 25 year old consistent 30 goal 60+ point C for two freaking 1st round draft picks, they jump all over that so fast it'd make your head spin. They need to make the team better NOW. They've drafted top 8 for EIGHT straight years lol. I can't even believe I got any resistance on this one bahaha.
    Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: BurnEmUp
    Yeah, I would say. The guy was taken 6th overall himself, is still just 25 and has averaged 30g/60p+ for 6 straight seasons. He's also signed for 3 more seasons for less than a $6.5 million AAV. If anything that return is light, but because this years is 8th OA and it's supposedly a good draft I figured that would do. C's of that quality don't go cheaply, they usually don't go at all.

    He'll also draw easier match ups than he ever did in Calgary now that he's 2nd in line behind Eichel.


    2 first round picks is too high. IMO he’s a good player I would love to have him, but that price is too high considering the 2021 pick will probably be a top 10 pick.
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