Unfortunately for you, CBJ doesn't touch this

If you trade fleury, it likely comes with retention.

depends on the team

i think it is a decent trade that i would not do for either team but vegas needs to shed cap so that is a trade that might happen. although im a pens and knights fan i would be comfortable for replacing the 3rd with a guy likeNic Hague or even a first round pick if needed

The free agent goaltender market this year offers better alternatives to Fleury. Can do better for the same price or cheaper, and get a younger goaltender.

Columbus definitely declines. Tuch is coming off a rough season, and is owed way too much money for that kind of gamble. I can't imagine they'd want to get another Wennberg-type contract.

i think vanacek is better than Sammy i wouldnt trade him for anything atm. Sammy has a injury history

That is definitely a "no way in hell" from Columbus. Tuch is a massive downgrade on a worse contract, at a position that we've got filled to bursting already. Bjorkstrand was our best forward this year; he's not being traded for anything "reasonable".

If you need to shed cap that badly and want to involve the Jackets, we can discuss Stastny. Otherwise, y'all just don't have what we need.

Bjorkstrand is untouchable. Not a chance Columbus makes this trade, Bjorkstrand was Columbus best forward during the regular season.

What team would want to spend $7m on a goaltender who will turn 36 before next season and struggled this past season with consistency? There are better options in free agency and younger goalies with cheaper contracts that could be acquired via trade. I don't see Fleury as an option for really any team with his current age, AAV, or recent play. I like Fleury, but he's a tough sell at this stage of his career. I'm curious what team(s) you think would be interested in Fleury with no retention.

few things. wennberg is sh*t and useless. tuch is a capable top 6 forward imo. when healthy he is better than atkinson...if u think holtby is better than fleury you are wrong. here is the goaltending market for ufa STARTING goaltenders. (Holtby, Markstrom).i did not include the 1a 1b goalies. i mean full time starters. Id say holtby will get overpaid and Markstrom is the only goalie on the market i think is better than fleury. hint: i am not a vegas fan i like the team but i am only a fan of 1 team. (the pens)

probably teams that have capspace but have a goalie of the future to replace fleury when his contract ends. His salary for 2020-21 is 6.5 mill then 21-22 is 6 mill. so here are the teams that can acquire him. Detroit (doesnt yet have a future starter but they should go for jesper wallstedt in 2021), LA, Buffalo (hope not) Ottawa (they got Daccord and Hogberg that can be the guy of the future. i get they have nilsson but i dont think nilsson should be on the sens and he could have a better chance to play good somewheres else) so maybe around Detroit LA Buffalo and Ottawa

Whoof. That's a lot of rambling to take in...

At no point did I say that Tuch wasn't good. I said that he's coming off a rough season, and hoping for a bounce back while giving up a very good player coming off of a very good season is a gamble that I wouldn't take.

As for Fleury-He's coming off of a very inconsistent season, is going to be 36 years old, and has 2 more years at 7 mil. Why would anyone take that on? Better yet, who has the space?

sammy not a massive injury history BUT i think vanacek has the potential to be better than sammy however currently Sammy is better and is a damn good goalie

Dubois*

Detroit: Why would they spend $7 mil a season on a goalie that doesn't even get them close to the playoffs (Unless they're getting an asset back to eat that money)
LA: What happened to Jonathan Quick?
Buffalo: If you have any form of NTC and Buffalo isn't on it, you're not doing it right.
Ottawa: Again, he doesn't get them close to the playoffs, so why would a notoriously cheap owner take on that financial obligation?

for detroit: they would be spending 6.5 for 20/21 and 6 for 21/22 and the wings can add a guy like Kolesar or Quinney or even both ffs
Buffalo: they have stupid owners
Ottawa: idek they got cap and they are dropping a lot of money in MacArthur so they could spend an extra approx. 2.2 mill for fleury who can hold the starter role until daccord is ready

dubois better all round. for offenseivly yes it was bjorky but overall it is was Dubois

Pittsburgh can't take Fleury's cap. If you want a 2nd and 3rd for him you are retaining 50%

But with Holtby, Markstrom, Crawford, Smith, Lehner, Dell, Greiss, Howard, Elliot, Talbot, and even more potentially available in free agency -- and more available via trade. Would those teams want to give away picks or whatever it may be when they could just sign someone not have to lose anything? There is a huge goalie market this summer, so we'll see where Fleury lands.

No.... Bjorkstrand is Columbus best forward. He was better wing the puck and better defensively.

Bjorkstrands xGA was 18.1 and PLDs was 30.7.

Bjorkstrand- 40 oiGF, 28 oiGA, 55.4 corsi% and .73 PPG
PLD- 50 oiGF, 49 oiGA, 51.2 corsi% and .7 PPG

The only thing PLD had more of was points and games played. Bjorkstrand is the better all around player.



The stats say this is a false comment.

yeah thats not a knock against Sammy but vanacek is a stud. i really like his play and think he is going to a Grub 2.0. caps will end up losing him to a team

go back and read the trade once more. look at the vegas side

that is the stats from games ive watched it was Dubois

That's nice. Doesn't change the fact that this Bjorkstrand proposal is a non-starter.