Moving out cap improving D and an Andersen trade proposal

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 of 1

Created by: GFD1996

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 14, 2020

Published: Aug. 15, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I think Nylander for Pesce in terms of value is better for CAR here whereas I would take Fleury slightly over Dermott.

Andersen trade: similar contract to Merzlikins, gives CBJ a more proven option in their rotation and TOR gets a younger player and overall a good change of scenery for Freddy whose struggled to have post season success. Also think Kerfoot gives a tad more than Jenner offensively for CBJ and gives them some more speed and TOR gets more sandpaper with Jenner

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dermott, Travis	3	$2,750,000
Mikheyev, Ilya	2	$2,500,000
Fleury, Haydn	3	$3,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Spezza, Jason		1	$700,000

Trades

TOR

Fleury, Haydn [RFA Rights]
Pesce, Brett

CAR

TOR

Deslauriers, Nicolas
2021 3rd round pick (ANA)

ANA

Johnsson, Andreas
2020 7th round pick (WPG)

TOR

CBJ

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$79,934,084	$0	$0	$1,565,916

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Mikheyev, Ilya $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Barabanov, Alexander $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Jenner, Boone $3,750,000$3,750,000 C, LW UFA - 2
Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2		Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2
	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Pesce, Brett $4,025,000$4,025,000 RD UFA - 4	Merzlikins, Elvis $4,000,000$4,000,000 G UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Fleury, Haydn $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Lehtonen, Mikko $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1
	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2
Korshkov, Yegor $925,000$925,000 RW RFA - 1
Rosén, Calle $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Aug. 15, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.

BeterChiarelli

Ban Price trades

Joined: Oct. 2017

Posts: 6,482

Likes: 6,455

Pretty sure Columbus is going to decline strictly based on the merit of term. Andersen is going to want a payday next summer, Elvis still has the extra year of $4M. Seems counterintuitive to trade goaltenders here when that money could be used elsewhere on the roster

Aug. 15, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.

ecupirate07

Joined: Jun. 2020

Posts: 9,417

Likes: 3,012

Canes say no thanks.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.

GFD1996

Thread Starter

Gio's Leafs

Joined: Dec. 2018

Posts: 330

Likes: 22

Quoting: BeterChiarelli

Possibly but I think that goaltending dynamic is attractive for CBJ. Yes, Elvis has more term by only a year but I think he's locked in behind Korpisalo. Andersen can come in and not only supply a nice balance but will most likely become a starter for them over Korpisalo throughout the season next year. Also think he has to be realistic and he probably won't get offered anything over $6M

Aug. 15, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.

Jfstompers

Pop Pop

Joined: Feb. 2018

Posts: 14,711

Likes: 8,317

Yeah I can't see enough of a benefit for Columbus to do that.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 2:00 p.m.

GFD1996

Thread Starter

Gio's Leafs

Joined: Dec. 2018

Posts: 330

Likes: 22

Quoting: ecupirate07

Canes say no thanks.

They say Leaf fans overrate players and then you get comments like this.... CAR is LOADED on defence... a surplus actually. Adding Nylander to play along Aho, Teravainen, and Svechnikov gives them a massive boost up front... People on this site treat Pesce's value like he's Lidstrom. Nylander for him makes too much sense for both teams and what they need.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.

GFD1996

Thread Starter

Gio's Leafs

Joined: Dec. 2018

Posts: 330

Likes: 22

Quoting: Jfstompers

Yeah I can't see enough of a benefit for Columbus to do that.

I get the argument but I personally think more has to be made of the fact TOR is indeed taking on more risk here. Merzilikins is technically a back up in CBJ and has under 40 games of NHL experience. Tor is banking on potential here and CBJ knows exactly what they're getting in Andersen

Aug. 15, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.

ecupirate07

Joined: Jun. 2020

Posts: 9,417

Likes: 3,012

Quoting: GFD1996

Just because we have an abundance of D doesn’t mean we make the deal. We don’t need Nylander like we need Pesce. On top of that, no team will trade 2 top 4 defenders in one deal for with an add on of Dermott. We don’t overvalue players, we know how to manage our assets and cap appropriately. Add on how burnt out we our with Car-Toronto trades after a week of saying it doesn’t work for us. Yet, he they still come in waves.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

Joined: Jun. 2018

Posts: 40,932

Likes: 25,730

Not counting the right-handed Rickard Rakell, we have Dan Heinen, Sonny Milano, Max Jones and Maxime Comtois all competing for playing time at LW, so why would we want to spend our fourth-line LW plus a third-round draft pick to add to that logjam?

Aug. 15, 2020 at 2:38 p.m.

GFD1996

Thread Starter

Gio's Leafs

Joined: Dec. 2018

Posts: 330

Likes: 22

Quoting: ecupirate07

Dermott is on equal levels with Fleury despite your assertion he is a "top" defender...

Secondly, Canes have Hamilton, Slavin, Skjei, Gardiner, Vatanen, Edmundson, TVR, and Bean ready to step up. In no world do they need Pesce more than Nylander. Nylander adds a massive offensive element for the team and the argument that Nylander can't get you Pesce is ridiculous.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.

#10

Jfstompers

Pop Pop

Joined: Feb. 2018

Posts: 14,711

Likes: 8,317

Quoting: GFD1996

I dont think they really wanna move jenner. Hes alot of their heart and soul. I guess it depends what they really think of Elvis. If they think his upside beats Anderson they say no.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.

#11

ecupirate07

Joined: Jun. 2020

Posts: 9,417

Likes: 3,012

Quoting: GFD1996

Dermott doesn’t equal Fleury. No one said Nylander isn’t worth it. We’re saying we wont do it because of cap. Reading is fundamental. Canes pass, moving on.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.

#12

GFD1996

Thread Starter

Gio's Leafs

Joined: Dec. 2018

Posts: 330

Likes: 22

Quoting: ecupirate07

Dermott doesn’t equal Fleury. No one said Nylander isn’t worth it. We’re saying we wont do it because of cap. Reading is fundamental. Canes pass, moving on.

oof. Really thinking Fleury above Dermott? Yeah, no.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.

#13

Caniac2000

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 19,786

Likes: 5,078

Pesce for Nylander is fair, but Fleury is a top 4 D man in his own right. I think you've missed the memo with him. Canes laugh because of that. If it's Pesce and Foegele for Nylander and Kapanen, that's different, but it's not

Aug. 15, 2020 at 4:17 p.m.

#14

Juice

Joined: Apr. 2016

Posts: 3,301

Likes: 1,512

Quoting: ecupirate07

Dermott doesn’t equal Fleury. No one said Nylander isn’t worth it. We’re saying we wont do it because of cap. Reading is fundamental. Canes pass, moving on.

What from Toronto gets Pesce alone, in your opinion? I think he's the perfect type of "quiet" defender that would pair perfectly with Rielly.

Aug. 15, 2020 at 11:15 p.m.

#15

GFD1996

Thread Starter

Gio's Leafs

Joined: Dec. 2018

Posts: 330

Likes: 22

Quoting: Caniac2000

just compare numbers with Dermott. He's a top 4 guy too imo. Honestly would be ok with just Nylander for Pesce 1 for 1.

Aug. 16, 2020 at 6:30 a.m.

#16

Caniac2000

Joined: May 2018

Posts: 19,786

Likes: 5,078

Quoting: GFD1996

just compare numbers with Dermott. He's a top 4 guy too imo. Honestly would be ok with just Nylander for Pesce 1 for 1.

Dermott << Fleury.

Page 1 of 1

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Forums/Armchair-GM