Florida doesnt have any fans, who are you talking to?

Def not enough. You need 2 of Miller, Lundkvist, Kravtsov, Chytil in the deal plus more pieces

Needs more elite or elite potential pieces and also just more good pieces in general, 90 point selke candidates are rare af

No. Value wise you’re 15% of the way there.

Not a chance.

Moving Barkov equals a total rebuilding. They'd likely require two top prospects, a replacement C, a NHL level defenseman they're lacking and a 1st.

Try Strome. Lindgren, Lundkvist, Kravtsov and a CAR 1st. That'd likely start the talks.

As a Rangers fan who loves Barkov, I can tell you its not enough. You cant expect to take one of the best centers in the league who is also the captain of a team and not give up some key prospects.

Nope. Barkov is a top 5 center. It takes WAY more to acquire one of them.

Nope. Try starting with Zibanejad instead of Strome.

Even then, they might wind up with a solid bottom pair d man, an inconsistent center, a good prospect that stays in europe, and a late first.

I mean by that point it becomes pretty pointless for NYR...

Not saying that my offer there would do it, but imo FLA should seriously consider it. It'd answer many questions of theirs.

Yah your deal wouldn’t do it, but they would have to give Zibanejad in a package for Barkov though. Which then they definitely wouldn’t do it. You would have to give so much for a top 5 center.

That's arguably still better than having a player who's value is dropping as he nears free agency while being very unlikely to re-sign with them.

I honestly dunno what they should add to the trade that wouldn't make it way too lopsided...

There’s probably 25+ teams coming with a better offer.

Somehow I doubt it.

Do you know who barkov is? Do you know what he gets paid?

Lowkey I might be the hardest freaking fanboy of the guy on this site - after all I'm a Finnish guy and I tend to overvalue all Finnish players of the league. And his contract is amazing...

Still I'm a realist. I said that my offer wouldn't likely do it, but honestly there's a huge load of good pieces going their way.

Say if you were in the boots of Gorton, what'd you offer for them?

I would just wait a year. It’ll cost so much that i wouldn’t bother. The panthers aren’t going to trade him until they’ve had a chance to put a contract in front of him in my opinion. Next years deadline at the absolute earliest.

If the bruins were going to make a pitch: Debrusk, grzelcyk, Vaakainanen, two firsts.

I think that offer isn't any better than what I offered but that's just me. I think it's worse. It doesn't help with their C issue, the LD prospects aren't of star quality and Bruins' picks are low by default at their current state.

Only DeBrusk is an upgrade from Strome - but honestly by the point they move Barkov they need a C much more than a winger.

Grzelcyk has light years more value than Lindgren.

How exactly?

Grzelcyk is 26, playing bottom-4 role in Bruins. Lindgren is 22, playing top-4 role in Rangers. They're statistically quite equal while Grizz having an edge with playing in a better team with higher ice time.

I agree that Grizz is level wise a tad better, but value-wise due to their ages and contracts (grizz is a bit random by this point as he's RFA next offseason) I think there's not much difference, if at all in terms of value.

Grzelcyk is getting A decent amount of time on the first pair. He did last year too. He’s probably their best five on five left shot d man. He’s certainly in a weird spot, given that the other two guys on the left side are one of the best defensive d men in the league, and one of the best offensive d men in the league. Situationally, he drew the short end of the stick on that one.

First pair for Lindgren? Really? There were four games this season where he hit 20 minutes (I’m talking pre pandemic), and plenty of nights where he got stapled to the bench. He’s been a 16 minute per night d man for his career. Grzelcyk has been an incredibly important part for a team that was in game 7 of a cup final last year, and just won the presidents trophy. That’s something.

Admittedly Lindgren plays TOP4 role in Rangers not because he's that good but because the Rangers LHD depth is absolutely pathetic.

Now that being said, is BOS truly in position to move Grzelcyk? I mean Chara should be eventually retiring, re-signing Krug seems a tad unlikely as of now...that'd leave only him as their only actual NHL level D-man. Players of his kind also aren't that useful to a rebuilding team to be fair, they'd just rapidly lose value after playing in a much, much more sucky team what BOS is.

John Moore and Jeremy Lauzon are certainly NHL level left shot d men. I would argue Vaakainanen is as well. Honestly I would put Zboril in the low ceiling, NHL ready category as well.

I don’t think the bruins should move grzelcyk by any means, but if a left d is what stands in between the bruins and a top line center, see ya grizz.

Aight.

Still not convinced that FLA would be after a guy that's likely walking quite soon. If Grizz doesn't perform in FLA, his value would drop dramatically. At the very least I don't see a player such as him being a key piece in an exchange to a TOP10 C.

Realistically if I were FLA GM from Boston I'd demand Coyle (as the replacement C), Lauzon (as the NHL level D provided he actually is one as you put it, I don't really know much about the guy), Studnicka and Vaakanainen (as top prospects) and a 2021 1st round pick - that is if this trade was made right after the next offseason kicks in.

Oh i never said that they would accept the deal. Swap studnicka for Frederic and I would do that bruins deal in a heartbeat.