Disappointment RETOOL PIETRANGELO -NYLANDER revised

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Created by: basicallyyakupov

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2020

Published: Aug. 17, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

the plan...
- leafs strengthen prospect pool with future serviceable ELCs for future cap situations (Hyman, Morgan Rielly contracts expiry/resigning)
- acquire more picks for trade ammo mid-season if needed or pad prospect pool
- acquire top2 RD; if you have a shot at a hometown proven stanley cup winning captain RD, you try to go for it.
- make cap room and retool frwd depth
- johnsson has lower growth potential than kappy but has better chemistry with matthews and/or tavares.
- would love to keep Nylander since his contract looks good value but a bit too opportunistic of a player and doesn't make Matthews or Tavares that much better defensively. will need to shed his contract for Pietrangelo anyhow and Robertson could potentially take his spot on 2nd LW. Robertson feels like a dump and chase player which might suit Tavares line. Nylander's zone entry and 2nd PP will be missed.

caveat/notes...
- barrie had a bust of a year but will want 5-7 mill in FA. if he is still around for 3mill sign him.
- liljegren needs 1 more year of development
- robertson is consistently nhl ready in a sheltered role
- sandin is consistently nhl ready in a sheltered role
- Ian Scott (CHL goalie of the year) is NHL ready as starter or a 1B in 3-4 years (hopefully backup ready after 2 years in AHL to replace campbell)
- do NOT sign PK subban. even for free. he'll take advantage of TOR market to grow his personality brand or TikTok and will distract the teammates and create animosity.
- is wayne simmonds available? toronto hometown boy on a long-term team friendly contract? (he said he wants security and is family first; maybe a cup run and 3rd line role on a super team friendly contract? 5x$3mill? i could be off on the value here but he had a bust of a year)

EDIT: removed Max Domi
trying to make Pietrangelo work + staying competitive in frwd depth is trickier than i thought

- maybe trade picks for a 3rd line ELC frwd depth? or use goat, petan, bracco, other fringe player

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya		2	$2,000,000
Murray, Matt		4	$5,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Spezza, Jason		1	$900,000
Pietrangelo, Alex		7	$9,500,000

Trades

TOR

2020 1st round pick (EDM)
2021 1st round pick (EDM)

EDM

Nylander, William

Additional Details:

robertson would eventually take top6 LW role in a couple years
edm needs an elite winger to complement mcdavid or draist

TOR

Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]

PIT

Additional Details:

get value for freddie
pittsburgh gets some cheap RFA depth

toronto signs murray RFA for enough years to cover Ian Scott's development

TOR

2020 1st round pick (TOR)

CAR

Kapanen, Kasperi
2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
2021 4th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

cap dump + give kappy opportunity to thrive instead of leafs' stagnant ceiling structure
mikheyev better fit with tavares anyhow
kappy too expensive and a waste of potential for 3rd line. (top9 role with top6 potential)
canes gain a sami kapanen legacy storyline + a gaurantee NHL player with a high growth potential in a win-now scenario

leafs get their own pick back in a stacked draft. pad prospect pool with a highly likely NHL ready player in -2 years.

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
19	$81,500,000	$80,384,084	$0	$0	$1,115,916

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Mikheyev, Ilya $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Barabanov, Alexander $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason $900,000$900,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Pietrangelo, Alex $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD UFA - 7	Murray, Matt $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 4
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Lehtonen, Mikko $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3

Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:23 a.m.

basicallyyakupov

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would love feedback or criticism.
tried to keep things realistic and high impact trades as possible.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:26 a.m.

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Quoting: basicallyyakupov

would love feedback or criticism.
tried to keep things realistic and high impact trades as possible.

Domi never signs that and even on the 0.0000001% chance he did, the Habs match it.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:46 a.m.

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true. hence

Quoting: basicallyyakupov

keep kerfoot is domi doesnt sign with leafs

leafs was domi's fav team and he'd love to continue his father's legacy.
max had a bust of a year and habs already has their center core locked with suzuki, poehling, kotkanemi
hes not getting more than 4 million on a bridge deal. 4 million on waivers compensation is 2nd round max. i think habs would take that if given opportunity. not the best but its a writeoff and domi as a trade piece isn't going to get much more than that anyhow.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 2:07 a.m.

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Habs would match that in a heartbeat, but Domi never signs that, not in a million years.

Quoting: basicallyyakupov

true. hence

leafs was domi's fav team and he'd love to continue his father's legacy.
max had a bust of a year and habs already has their center core locked with suzuki, poehling, kotkanemi
hes not getting more than 4 million on a bridge deal. 4 million on waivers compensation is 2nd round max. i think habs would take that if given opportunity. not the best but its a writeoff and domi as a trade piece isn't going to get much more than that anyhow.

Domi on another bridge deal, at minimum, would take $5.5mil aav imo, and that's being on the cheaper side of offers. Domi has arbitration rights this time around , and although he had an "off year" (I would say not properly utilised compared to the previous season) Domi still has a 72 point season under his belt at Center. So just following RFA compensation values, $5.5 aav (being cheap) gets you a 1st + 3rd. If you're signing him long term, 100% we are talking $6.5mil+ aav, which for RFA compensation would be a 1st + 2nd + 3rd.
I think a fair evaluation of Domi's value falls in between both RFA compensations. A 1st rd pick (I'd say mid to late 1st) and depending on the position of the 1st an additional pick (2nd or 3rd), or you can replace the picks with a prospect of equal value.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 2:08 a.m.

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You’re 2.6 mil over the cap with only 21 guys. No way Domi signs that deal, you’re putting a lot of value in hometown discount, how well did that work out in the Marner negotiations? Carolina is not giving 13OA for Kappy.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 2:11 a.m.

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Quoting: alfie11

You’re 2.6 mil over the cap with only 21 guys.

if u read description, kerfoot is a pending trade block to be moved which will go under cap by 1 million approx.

Quoting: Blazingbat11

Domi on another bridge deal, at minimum, would take $5.5mil aav imo, and that's being on the cheaper side of offers. Domi has arbitration rights this time around , and although he had an "off year" (I would say no properly utilised compared to the previous season) Domi still has a 72 point season under his belt at Center. So just following RFA compensation values, $5.5 aav (being cheap) gets you a 1st + 3rd. If you're signing him long term, 100% we are talking $6.5mil+ aav, which for RFA compensation would be a 1st + 2nd + 3rd.
I think a fair evaluation of Domi's value falls in between both RFA compensations. A 1st rd pick (I'd say mid to late 1st) and depending on the position of the 1st an additional pick (2nd or 3rd).

yeah this makes sense and could def play out this way. i dont think any team will see domi worth a 1st + xx though. His role is sitting at a 3c comfortably for 2020-2021 season and $5mill+ aav is a bit high for a top9 player. but what you say does make sense, if that is the case... leafs dont pick up domi and keep kerfoot or explore other options.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 2:15 a.m.

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Quoting: Alfie11

Carolina is not giving 13OA for Kappy.

yeah maybe not.
it could be a conversation starter?

could be a kapp + 2nd round pick or prospect?? what do u think
any more, would rather trade for a late 1st round with a different team.

kapp trade value is definitely in the same ballpark as what leafs paid for Muzzin from LA couple years ago + kappy has a higher ceiling and RFA in my opinion.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 2:24 a.m.

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Quoting: basicallyyakupov

Habs have a centre core for the future, but Domi is a better winger and they don't want to give up control of an RFA so easily, especially when it's affordable even as a longer term deal. Habs never trade Domi for a 2nd on the market. Montreal will also not be planning to stack draft picks for 2021 and are going to continue to push for playoffs and letting Domi go for essentially nothing would be yet another reason to fire Bergevin.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 2:28 a.m.

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Quoting: basicallyyakupov

Domi's role isn't as a 3rd line Center in MTL... and it's never been that either, nor will it be. Domi is a top 6 offensive player, not much of a debate there, that's the only roles he's ever played in the NHL. Although Domi is physical, he's not really a two way player. Not that he's bad at defense, but apart from looking for a big hit here and there. You won't see him on a PK, or taking key defensive zone faceoffs. Only future Domi has in MTL is on the wing. He's a far better Center, but there's no room, so that's why you see him so much for trade on this site.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 2:35 a.m.

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alright im convinced.

no Domi on leafs.
keeping Kerfoot

Aug. 17, 2020 at 4:36 a.m.

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Overplay for Murray.

The Pens play with much more structure than the Leafs, still he had a save percentage of below .900

The Nylander trade is bad too. Those picks will not be high. You would have to throw in at least Bouchard or Broberg to even consider a trade.

And the worst idea is the signing of Pietrangelo. 9.5 for a D that is soon 31 for 7 years?

The Leafs cannot afford him and ask the Sharks how fun it is to play good old Ds a lot of money

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 4:48 a.m.

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Quoting: gordon_bombay

true, that makes sense too.
i guess no pietrangelo = keeping nylander and probably trading johnsson + ??? for a serviceable top4 RHD

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:51 a.m.

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Carolina are not giving up someone like Askarov for Kapanen

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:58 a.m.

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Quoting: Alfie11

Quoting: Caniac2000

Carolina are not giving up someone like Askarov for Kapanen

i guess i was closer than i thought
#15 + prospects

Aug. 26, 2020 at 1:07 a.m.

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Quoting: basicallyyakupov

i guess i was closer than i thought
#15 + prospects

I mean technically I wasn’t wrong. Carolina wasn’t stupid enough to make that deal, JR’s just going senile

Aug. 26, 2020 at 5:33 a.m.

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Quoting: basicallyyakupov

i guess i was closer than i thought
#15 + prospects

Difference is Askarov won't be there at 15, there's a big difference for a team that could use a franchise goalie.

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