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Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2020
Published: Aug. 17, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
5$5,750,000
2$4,750,000
2$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,500,000
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Athanasiou, Andreas$3,750,000
2021 2nd round pick
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  1. 2020 7th round pick (DET)
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$72,869,431$1,090,244$5,900,000$9,630,569

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
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UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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LW, RW
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C, RW
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
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That's not enough to get rid of Seabs. Will take a 1st round pick likely to move him plus a decent prospect.
Aug. 17, 2020 at 11:35 a.m.
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I just threw up in my mouth with that offer to take on Seabrook, thanks...
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
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Seeing you did no give an explanation, why would Wings do this?
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 12:26 p.m.
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Seeing you did no give an explanation, why would Wings do this?


Potential top 4 defenseman in Beaudin and, despite Seabs not being the player he once was, he's a good leader with great experience to help lead a young team. Not to mention they don't have Green anymore and I think that part of Seabs demise is his lack of opportunity to play.
Aug. 17, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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Potential top 4 defenseman in Beaudin and, despite Seabs not being the player he once was, he's a good leader with great experience to help lead a young team. Not to mention they don't have Green anymore and I think that part of Seabs demise is his lack of opportunity to play.

He’s 35 and his body isn’t what it was even 3-4 years ago. Not to mention he is a RD signed for four more years at 6.875M in a flat cap era when we have a strong RD group in Hronek, Seider, Lindstrom, and Tuomisto so he’d be blocking development ice time. He also has a NMC.

Beaudin is a decent prospect low chance at being a top 4D and he wouldn’t even be our top LD prospect (McIsaac, Johansson, Cholowski) would be over him.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.
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I love how everyone on this site is delusional and add a B prospect to their high salary/ long term cap dump and think it'll work
Aug. 17, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.
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He’s 35 and his body isn’t what it was even 3-4 years ago. Not to mention he is a RD signed for four more years at 6.875M in a flat cap era when we have a strong RD group in Hronek, Seider, Lindstrom, and Tuomisto so he’d be blocking development ice time. He also has a NMC.

Beaudin is a decent prospect low chance at being a top 4D and he wouldn’t even be our top LD prospect (McIsaac, Johansson, Cholowski) would be over him.


Antti Tuomisto isn't going to be NHL ready for two or three years depending on how his time in Denver goes (especially with COVID), Seider has at least another season before he will become an NHL regular and would probably benefit more playing in the minors getting consistent top line minutes than being in and out of the lineup playing with different defensive partners, and as for Lindstrom, I haven't watch him enough to have an opinion on whether he is NHL ready. With Seabs I would assume the lines would look like this:

DeKeyser-Hronek
Nemeth-Bowey
Seabs-Lindstrom
Aug. 17, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.
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I love how everyone on this site is delusional and add a B prospect to their high salary/ long term cap dump and think it'll work


I would call him more of a B+ prospect and the trade is explained above
Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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Antti Tuomisto isn't going to be NHL ready for two or three years depending on how his time in Denver goes (especially with COVID), Seider has at least another season before he will become an NHL regular and would probably benefit more playing in the minors getting consistent top line minutes than being in and out of the lineup playing with different defensive partners, and as for Lindstrom, I haven't watch him enough to have an opinion on whether he is NHL ready. With Seabs I would assume the lines would look like this:

DeKeyser-Hronek
Nemeth-Bowey
Seabs-Lindstrom

We don’t need Tuomisto to be NHL ready right away as Seider could play next year or at the latest one more year. Seider plays such a refined game for a defenseman his age that he is the least of my worries on RD. Lindstrom is a stay at home defenseman that looked good in his limited call up last year. So with Hronek, Seider, and Lindstrom we are already going to be causing a logjam within one year with Seabrook. Let’s say you kick Seabrook over to LD like you mentioned and you put on the 3rd pairing, what kind of GM wants a nearly 7M defenseman on the 3rd pair? I’d much rather use that cash/cap to try and pursued a Krug to Detroit to be paired with Seider. This is a really bad trade for Detroit regardless of how you sugar coat it and I’d wager even the Blackhawk fans on this site would easily agree.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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I would call him more of a B+ prospect and the trade is explained above


Seabrook is replacement level these days, he offers nothing to Detroit. The only chance you'd have is if you're giving up a package with high value future assets, one decent prospect ain't gonna cut it nor is a quantity of decent assets. Detroit just ain't gonna take on a bad, aging D who costs 6M for "leadership"

And Seider is NHL ready now, he was dominate in 2nd half of AHL season, excelled at WC's playing against men, he good to go.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
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Antti Tuomisto isn't going to be NHL ready for two or three years depending on how his time in Denver goes (especially with COVID), Seider has at least another season before he will become an NHL regular and would probably benefit more playing in the minors getting consistent top line minutes than being in and out of the lineup playing with different defensive partners, and as for Lindstrom, I haven't watch him enough to have an opinion on whether he is NHL ready. With Seabs I would assume the lines would look like this:

DeKeyser-Hronek
Nemeth-Bowey
Seabs-Lindstrom


A backend including Bowey and Seabrook? And a rookie who only played 16 games last year although he looked good in them, a rookie. We would lose more games than last year. Just not happening man. You’re out of touch with the Wings it seems.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.
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A realistic trade between these two teams could be something like Koekkoek for Bowey straight up.
You’re dreaming with this Seabrook scenario
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:37 p.m.
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Potential top 4 defenseman in Beaudin and, despite Seabs not being the player he once was, he's a good leader with great experience to help lead a young team. Not to mention they don't have Green anymore and I think that part of Seabs demise is his lack of opportunity to play.


I would imagine adding a minimum of your next 2 1st round picks would be required, Seabrook's contract is BAD.
I don't think he gets moved for this reason, that is obviously a lot to pay, but that deal is ridiculously bad.
Would you take on Frans Nielsen's contract as Chicago if I offered to throw in Cooper Moore to sweeten the deal?
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:39 p.m.
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Antti Tuomisto isn't going to be NHL ready for two or three years depending on how his time in Denver goes (especially with COVID), Seider has at least another season before he will become an NHL regular and would probably benefit more playing in the minors getting consistent top line minutes than being in and out of the lineup playing with different defensive partners, and as for Lindstrom, I haven't watch him enough to have an opinion on whether he is NHL ready. With Seabs I would assume the lines would look like this:

DeKeyser-Hronek
Nemeth-Bowey
Seabs-Lindstrom


What you said about Tuomisto is the same thing they said about Lindstrom and in his first season of North American pro hockey he has earned a roster on the Wings.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
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We will trade you Brendan Perlini back for Alec Regula just for making us listen to this Seabrook nonsense
Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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What you said about Tuomisto is the same thing they said about Lindstrom and in his first season of North American pro hockey he has earned a roster on the Wings.


Forsure, Tuomisto is INCREDIBLY hard to project because of how few players take the route he took.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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Forsure, Tuomisto is INCREDIBLY hard to project because of how few players take the route he took.


I mean.. he lit up his own age group in Finnish Junior and won league MVP.. It’s not that hard to project.. He’s a top prospect in his age group. But I know what you mean, by not playing in the men’s league like the other top prospects to save his eligibility, we didn’t get to see him against better competition, making it an unknown how he will fare against higher competition.
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Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.
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True I was just saying you never know.
Aug. 17, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.
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I can't see anyone taking Seabrook's for what is offered. Maybe 4 or 5 seasons ago.
Aug. 17, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.
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1st off. Beadin is not projected as a top 4 defenseman.

2nd, Deabrook is a shell of himself from 3 years ago. He was a great leader and top team pairing defensemen. Now he is probably not a top 5or 6 defenseman in the league. That is due to injury and age. As a Wings fan when the Wimgs had the Hawks down in the Cup playoffs and the got in Toews head, it was Seabrook who calmed him down and lead the team from 3 -1 game deficit to win the cup.

All that being said, no team and I mean NO team is taking on that anchor of a contract which has 4 years left at 6.88 million for some leadership. It would take multiple picks and prospects to get a team to even think about taking on a contract that in essence eats up 8.5 % of their cap in one player who is not even the one of the top player on the team. It will only so problems and for a rebuilding team of young players that could be a problem

Wings would rather sign a less costly and short Free Agent deal with the cap dollars we have.

I appreciate your response and what you believe to be a good deal, but in the flat cap era and the rebuilding of the Wings it makes zero sense to do this deal as proposed.
 
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