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Created by: Chigurrhh

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 20, 2020

Published: Aug. 20, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Angry at all the analytics computer boys and dumb fans, Jim Rutherford has decided to double down on the Jack Johnson experiment.

Rasmus Ristoleinen - Basically young Jack Johnson. Terrible on ice impact, zero hockey sense, and got some points on the power play.

Erik Gudbranson - Large defenseman drafted 3rd overall like Jack who doesn't fit the modern NHL.

Cody Ceci - Analytics whipping boy who is also defended by his GM, though to a less insane degree. Does hilariously bad things when he has the puck on his stick.

Jonathan Ericsson - By any metric, he can't play anymore. Jim will prove all the metrics wrong.

Nikita Zaitsev - Russian Jack Johnson

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Ericsson, Jonathan		8	$6,000,000
Ceci, Cody		8	$6,000,000

Trades

PIT

Ristolainen, Rasmus

BUF

PIT

Zaitsev, Nikita

OTT

McCann, Jared [RFA Rights]
Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
Riikola, Juuso [RFA Rights]

PIT

Gudbranson, Erik

ANA

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$74,975,834	$0	$1,165,000	$6,524,166

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
Poulin, Samuel $894,167$894,167 C, LW RFA - 4	Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW UFA - 2	Hållander, Filip $764,167$764,167 ($182,500$182K) C RFA - 3	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Johnson, Jack $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 1	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD UFA - 2	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 2
	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Larmi, Emil $792,500$792,500 ($132,500$132K) G UFA - 1
Ericsson, Jonathan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD UFA	Gudbranson, Erik $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA - 1
Ceci, Cody $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Aug. 20, 2020 at 5:46 p.m.

Scuderi4Daley

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Eastern conference forwards and computer boys everywhere are shaking in their boots

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.

Stgstg55

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Hey man Guddy has been solid for the Ducks

Aug. 20, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.

TheGuyInTheChair

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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal

Hey man Guddy has been solid for the Ducks

Nice try

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.

mhockey91

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this is either:
1- GMJR trying to raise the value of JJ. if he sat in the interview and said he sucked, it would only hurt his trade value further
2- GMJR absolutely has no idea what he's doing regarding JJ. GMJR has MANY times moved guys quickly after he acquired them: brassard, Perron, Pearson, reaves, Hunwick, Kahun, Gudbranson, etc... so its not like he's worried about saving face. Ill give Rutherford credit, when one of his experiments don't work out, he doesn't waste any time and moves on from them. He cuts his loses. Johnson is arguably his biggest mistake and I would be absolutely baffled if he doesn't move on from this one.

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.

Chigurrhh

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Chiggy

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Quoting: mhockey91

Problem is that he doesn't recognize it's a mistake. He's doubled down on what he's said since day one. And Sullivan is on board too. Look at his ice time in the series against Montreal.

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.

Jah1722

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Quoting: Jesus

Nice try

It’s actually funny because he has. He and Fowler were the ducks best pair last season. 50.5% corsi 99 PDO with 57.7% stone starts. Not the best dman in the world but at least a serviceable NHL dman.

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:06 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: Chigurrhh

Problem is that he doesn't recognize it's a mistake. He's doubled down on what he's said since day one. And Sullivan is on board too. Look at his ice time in the series against Montreal.

I honestly wonder if Crosby has anything to do with this. If Sid told management he doesn't want his best friend Jack Johnson traded, that might be a reason

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:07 p.m.

Chigurrhh

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Chiggy

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Quoting: mhockey91

I honestly wonder if Crosby has anything to do with this. If Sid told management he doesn't want his best friend Jack Johnson traded, that might be a reason

Traded is one thing. Getting as much ice time as Sid in an elimination game is a whole other issue and points to coaching.

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:09 p.m.

TheGuyInTheChair

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Quoting: Jah1722

Oh he's definitely a serviceable d-man its just I'm happy we got rid of his contract. Marino basically cost him his job

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:09 p.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: Chigurrhh

Traded is one thing. Getting as much ice time as Sid in an elimination game is a whole other issue and points to coaching.

agreed. im already calling that Sullivan is fired midway through next season. Give Mike Vellucci a chance

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:12 p.m.

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Jah1722

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Quoting: Jesus

Oh he's definitely a serviceable d-man its just I'm happy we got rid of his contract. Marino basically cost him his job

As a ducks fan getting him for a 7th and watching him allow Fowler have his best year in a long time makes it worth it too.

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:12 p.m.

#12

Pensfan89

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Quoting: mhockey91

I honestly wonder if Crosby has anything to do with this. If Sid told management he doesn't want his best friend Jack Johnson traded, that might be a reason

Then we should trade him too. Ok I’m joking. I don’t mind Crosby having input, but having that much input is a bit concerning. Cause apparently he has a lot of input of who gets put on his line, which is why we don’t see Hornqvist on the line as much and why Guentzel went back to Crosby over Malkin.

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.

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GuentzelvaniaUSA

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Serious lack of Cody Ceci

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.

#14

Chigurrhh

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Chiggy

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Quoting: MTF

Serious lack of Cody Ceci

He's on the team.

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:42 p.m.

#15

CFMan

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I heard Seabrook is related to JJ, maybe second cousins? Might be worth getting the family together.

Aug. 20, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.

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Skyraider112

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Lol the difference between Risto and JJ is that Risto isn't a complete potato and munches minutes on a crap team

Aug. 20, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.

#17

Chigurrhh

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Chiggy

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Quoting: Skyraider112

Lol the difference between Risto and JJ is that Risto isn't a complete potato and munches minutes on a crap team

You are describing a young Jack Johnson.

Aug. 20, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.

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TheGuyInTheChair

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Quoting: Jah1722

As a ducks fan getting him for a 7th and watching him allow Fowler have his best year in a long time makes it worth it too.

See it worked for both teams

Aug. 20, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.

#19

Skyraider112

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Quoting: Chigurrhh

You are describing a young Jack Johnson.

He is 8 years younger, I'm not worried. He might become just as bad later on in his career but as of right now he is a top 4 D

Aug. 20, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.

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AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: mhockey91

Quoting: Chigurrhh

Problem is that he doesn't recognize it's a mistake. He's doubled down on what he's said since day one. And Sullivan is on board too. Look at his ice time in the series against Montreal.

You know, the thing with GMJR is that he’s able to admit when things aren’t working out with most players. But for Jack, I’ve never seen a GM defend a player to this extent. This is why I don’t buy into the GM sweet talk narrative, just doesn’t seem like they have any intention to get him out of the lineup.

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

I guess we will find out. id be shocked if they dont move him

Aug. 20, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.

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AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: mhockey91

I guess we will find out. id be shocked if they dont move him

Agree he’s been a liability for this team.

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Aug. 20, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.

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Chigurrhh

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Chiggy

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Quoting: Skyraider112

He is 8 years younger, I'm not worried. He might become just as bad later on in his career but as of right now he is a top 4 D

He has a negative impact on his team when he's on the ice. Him playing a lot of minutes is a bad thing.

Aug. 20, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.

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Skyraider112

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Quoting: Chigurrhh

He has a negative impact on his team when he's on the ice. Him playing a lot of minutes is a bad thing.

I agree he shouldn't play that much but who else would we play for 25+ mins? Now Dahlin is ready to take the brunt of it and Joki is coming along but before them it was either Risto, Bogosian, or Gorges to take those mins

Aug. 20, 2020 at 9:46 p.m.

#25

Chigurrhh

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Chiggy

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Quoting: Skyraider112

Literally anyone else. He should have been traded years ago.

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