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Flames Col and STL moves

Created by: rb1481
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 22, 2020
Published: Aug. 22, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Aggressive moves this summer to acquire Gaudreau, Zadorov and Allen.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$1,500,000
3$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,000,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
  2. Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
2.
MTL
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
3.
MTL
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (STL)
  3. 2021 5th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Huge cap relief for STL to help with signing AP and Dunn. Similar to Winnipeg deal with Mason a few years ago
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,527,975$0$4,007,500$3,972,025
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.
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its been a pleasure
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What the...?
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.
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flames accept imo
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.
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I think you could get more for tatar, idk if calgary does it though
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
What the...?


What is your surprise about?
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: TomasTataaaar
I think you could get more for tatar, idk if calgary does it though


I was thinking Tatar is an impending UFA whereas Zadorov is younger and an RFA
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Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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Flames easily decline
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
Flames easily decline


Really? JG has another poor playoffs and it looks like the writing is on the wall. Domi also had an underwhelming playoffs but has more grit and less talent than JG. Mete could slot into too 6 when Brodie and TH leave in FA. And two good second rounders add to the haul.
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Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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Quoting: rb1481
I was thinking Tatar is an impending UFA whereas Zadorov is younger and an RFA


Tatar is a 60 point winger, Zadorov is a bottom pairing dman. One is not like the other
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Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Why would you trade Tatar for a bottom pairing defenseman and man that CGY trade... I bet it doesnt even work on NHL20 rookie season mode
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Tatar is a 60 point winger, Zadorov is a bottom pairing dman. One is not like the other


Agreed. But with a flat cap there won’t be many contending teams that can take on his cap hit. Plus his poor playoffs likely impacted his value IMO
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Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
Why would you trade Tatar for a bottom pairing defenseman and man that CGY trade... I bet it doesnt even work on NHL20 rookie season mode


Who is the trade lopsided for? JG needs to move and they get good value back
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:55 a.m.
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How is Allen a cap relief... he is actually a good goalie lol
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Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: rb1481
What is your surprise about?


I dont see MTL trading for Gaudreau, because he's had an underwhelming szn and playoffs.

Tatar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zadorov
People will pay to take Allen. to get him MTL would have to do Lindgren+4th.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.
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Quoting: BraydenSchenn10istheGOAT
How is Allen a cap relief... he is actually a good goalie lol


Because they have Binnington and have major cap problems and can’t afford to sign AP and Dunn ($10-$12 mill total). And few teams need a starting G, and less need a $4 mill backup
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:06 a.m.
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Agreed. But with a flat cap there won’t be many contending teams that can take on his cap hit. Plus his poor playoffs likely impacted his value IMO


Tatar had a fine playoffs and MTL can retain 50% and bring his cap hit to under 3 million, plenty of playoff teams next year will give up a 1st for him
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: rb1481
Because they have Binnington and have major cap problems and can’t afford to sign AP and Dunn ($10-$12 mill total). And few teams need a starting G, and less need a $4 mill backup


That doesn't mean he is a cap dump. They could:

1) Get better value for him
2) Trade another player
3) Buy him out
4) Burry him
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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Quoting: rb1481
Really? JG has another poor playoffs and it looks like the writing is on the wall. Domi also had an underwhelming playoffs but has more grit and less talent than JG. Mete could slot into too 6 when Brodie and TH leave in FA. And two good second rounders add to the haul.


7 in 9 games isn’t poor. Flames are probably gonna keep him, it’s just mad fans and Eric Francis ( who is an idiot) say he’s leaving
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:21 a.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
That doesn't mean he is a cap dump. They could:

1) Get better value for him
2) Trade another player
3) Buy him out
4) Burry him


You can’t bury guys anymore, and why would they do that anyway? Buying out doesn’t make sense either. Who else would they trade? What teams would give them anything for him?
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
7 in 9 games isn’t poor. Flames are probably gonna keep him, it’s just mad fans and Eric Francis ( who is an idiot) say he’s leaving


He is skilled enough to always get his points. But points does not equal winning in the playoffs.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Tatar had a fine playoffs and MTL can retain 50% and bring his cap hit to under 3 million, plenty of playoff teams next year will give up a 1st for him


I hope you are right! If he plays like he has the last two years I agree.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 11:26 a.m.
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avs accept. not a huge fan of tatar but that price is more than fair.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: rb1481
I was thinking Tatar is an impending UFA whereas Zadorov is younger and an RFA


There is no room on the blue line for Zadorov as Romanov will play on the left no matter what and likely bumps everyone down a spot at some point during the year. So acquiring Zadorov to play maybe 20 games in the top 4 is not a smart move and Tatar can bring back more than just Zadorov anyway.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 7:10 p.m.
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COL accepts lol
Aug. 22, 2020 at 10:45 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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You can’t bury guys anymore, and why would they do that anyway? Buying out doesn’t make sense either. Who else would they trade? What teams would give them anything for him?


Of course you can burry contracts. Look it up...

Instead of answering questions you should ask yourself, Im going to tell you the future: Pietrangelo will hit the UFA market and sign elsewhere and blues will have plenty of capspace to renew other contracts.
Aug. 24, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
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Of course you can burry contracts. Look it up...

Instead of answering questions you should ask yourself, Im going to tell you the future: Pietrangelo will hit the UFA market and sign elsewhere and blues will have plenty of capspace to renew other contracts.


You can bury contracts but you don't save the full cap amount. Look it up:

What is a Buried Contract?
Teams do not receive full cap relief when a player on a one-way NHL contract is reassigned to the American Hockey League, or is loaned to a team in another professional league.
The players salary cap hit, minus the sum of the minimum NHL salary for the respective season and $375,000, still counts towards the team’s salary cap total.
The cap hit relief is therefore equal to the minimum salary of the respective season + $375,000

So burying Allen only saves about $1 million. You really do think AP leaves via free agency? It wouldn't be in line with with him and the Blues have indicated all along...but we know that can easily change so maybe. Agreed though, if he leaves STL will be ok with the cap. Still need to shed some money though.
 
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