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Created by: Onslaught77
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 1, 2020
Published: Sep. 1, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,200,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
2$1,000,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Parayko, Colton
  2. Sundqvist, Oskar
Additional Details:
Blues get the Room to sign Petrangelo and trade Bozak before the deal with the Leafs goes through. This gives them 9-9.5 million depending on what they sign Rodrigues to. Same as the Leafs they don't qualify him and sign him to much less than his qualifying offer.
STL
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Rodrigues, Evan [RFA Rights]
  4. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Leafs Give up a lot here I know but you gotta give to get and you get a perfect partner for Rielly which he's never had. You gotta give to get. Is it an overpay? Yes. So what.
2.
TOR
  1. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Lottery protected. If the pick lands in the top 15 the Leafs take the Oilers 2022 first round pick.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$79,771,450$0$0$1,728,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
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UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
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definitely not an overpay.

Underpay maybe... Kerfoot is nothing special.

And Edmonton doesn't need more defenseman who haven't proven anything yet, they have plenty
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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Why on earth would oilers give up that pick for spare parts that don’t do much for the roster?
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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Leafs give up a lot for Parayko and Sunny? Overpay? Is there a hidden section with more stuff coming to the Blues or something?

That... is gruesome.
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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Leafs add Marner
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:12 p.m.
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Where is "the room" to sign Pietrangelo exactly?

Parayko = 5.5M
Sundqvist = 2.75M
TOTAL = 8.25M

Kerfoot = 3.5M
Johnsson = 3.4M
Rodrigues = 2M (base QO)
Liljegren = 850k
TOTAL = 9.7M

You need to work on your basic math my friend
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:12 p.m.
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Barabanov?
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Leafs give up a lot for Parayko and Sunny? Overpay? Is there a hidden section with more stuff coming to the Blues or something?

That... is gruesome.


Except you haven't bothered to look at Liljegrin He's one of the best prospects who's an obvious NHL roster player next season. He's been an excellent offensive D who can play well in his own end and was at the top of the AHL in scoring last season and the team was ****. You guys think the whole league is going to give you 4 firsts a second and a third for him and your magically going to sign Petrangelo to league min. Good luck with that.
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Where is "the room" to sign Pietrangelo exactly?

Parayko = 5.5M
Sundqvist = 2.75M
TOTAL = 8.25M

Kerfoot = 3.5M
Johnsson = 3.4M
Rodrigues = 2M (base QO)
Liljegren = 850k
TOTAL = 9.7M

You need to work on your basic math my friend


Nobody's qualifying him. You don't. You do the same the Leafs were going to do and offer him less and if he doesn't then let him walk and sign someone else.
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
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Except you haven't bothered to look at Liljegrin He's one of the best prospects who's an obvious NHL roster player next season. He's been an excellent offensive D who can play well in his own end and was at the top of the AHL in scoring last season and the team was ****. You guys think the whole league is going to give you 4 firsts a second and a third for him and your magically going to sign Petrangelo to league min. Good luck with that.


Lily isn’t even a top 50 prospect in the league
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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Why on earth would oilers give up that pick for spare parts that don’t do much for the roster?


They aren't spare parts. Dermott is excellent just not a guy vital to our roster because of Muzzin. Too good for a third line D. Johnsson is a super quick top 6 forward who's amazing at puck retrieval and passing. It's fantastic value but i'm sure the Leafs could work out another trade and since the oilers Stanely cup win with your amazing forward supporting staff I can see how you would want to stand pat. Cheers.
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.
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Whatever man. If the other team isn't ****ting on it it's not a good deal. It's Hilarious blues fans think Pietrangelo will play for free.
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.
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They aren't spare parts. Dermott is excellent just not a guy vital to our roster because of Muzzin. Too good for a third line D. Johnsson is a super quick top 6 forward who's amazing at puck retrieval and passing. It's fantastic value but i'm sure the Leafs could work out another trade and since the oilers Stanely cup win with your amazing forward supporting staff I can see how you would want to stand pat. Cheers.


Haha happy to stand pat. Cheers
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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Nobody's qualifying him. You don't. You do the same the Leafs were going to do and offer him less and if he doesn't then let him walk and sign someone else.


Ok sure, lets subtract 2M from ~9.7M

What do we get? 7.7M

Then lets assume they don't even resign him. In total St. Louis saves ~550k in cap space here. Not even a league min contract
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ok sure, lets subtract 2M from ~9.7M

What do we get? 7.7M

Then lets assume they don't even resign him. In total St. Louis saves ~550k in cap space here. Not even a league min contract


The point was that they trade Bozaks contract. It's a flat cap. Every team is hurting.
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
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Haha happy to stand pat. Cheers


stand pat then. They trade them somewhere else.
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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no chance leafs should give up the 15th pick and Liljegren in that trade
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ok sure, lets subtract 2M from ~9.7M

What do we get? 7.7M

Then lets assume they don't even resign him. In total St. Louis saves ~550k in cap space here. Not even a league min contract


If they let him go then they save 1350000
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.
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Except you haven't bothered to look at Liljegrin He's one of the best prospects who's an obvious NHL roster player next season. He's been an excellent offensive D who can play well in his own end and was at the top of the AHL in scoring last season and the team was ****. You guys think the whole league is going to give you 4 firsts a second and a third for him and your magically going to sign Petrangelo to league min. Good luck with that.


Dude. Are you actually pretending that I am the one inflating player worth here? Holy crap.

And no, I don't want **** for Colt. He's not available at all.
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:44 p.m.
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If they let him go then they save 1350000


So if the Blues have to let Rodrigues walk, why do you imagine adding him in the trade means anything?
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
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If they let him go then they save 1350000


what is 8.25 - 7.7?
Sep. 1, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
what is 8.25 - 7.7?


So let me ask you this., What's your trade that allows the blues to resign Pietrangelo and who are you trading him to. Remember that the team that takes him needs to Make it under the flat cap and it has to make sense for him. Because by the sounds of it your saying tell him to piss off.
Sep. 1, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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Overpay for Parayko?? Then someone above said something like four 1sts and second, blah, blah, blah." None of the St. Louisans I've read on here have ever asked for more than two 1sts for Colt55. Ever. @mokumboi was correct when he replied that the Note having to rid themselves of Rodrigues does nothing for the trade. That's about as clear and common sense as one could be. Adding Kerplunk doesn't do much either. Sure, Lily is a decent prospect, but he's not someone that screams #1 defenseman. Hell, I'm not sure Sandin is a #1...more likely a #2. The 1st round pick is a good start, but the Note doesn't HAVE to move Parayko. Bozak and Allen have positive value and can be moved and likely will. The Blues could move Sanford, depending on who they get back for Bozak and Allen (if they get someone for them at all). Dunn is also a candidate to be moved, but he's way down on the list to move. Steen, while not likely to occur, could be bought out as well. This isn't an overpay for 55.
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 6:52 p.m.
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Overpay for Parayko?? Then someone above said something like four 1sts and second, blah, blah, blah." None of the St. Louisans I've read on here have ever asked for more than two 1sts for Colt55. Ever. @mokumboi was correct when he replied that the Note having to rid themselves of Rodrigues does nothing for the trade. That's about as clear and common sense as one could be. Adding Kerplunk doesn't do much either. Sure, Lily is a decent prospect, but he's not someone that screams #1 defenseman. Hell, I'm not sure Sandin is a #1...more likely a #2. The 1st round pick is a good start, but the Note doesn't HAVE to move Parayko. Bozak and Allen have positive value and can be moved and likely will. The Blues could move Sanford, depending on who they get back for Bozak and Allen (if they get someone for them at all). Dunn is also a candidate to be moved, but he's way down on the list to move. Steen, while not likely to occur, could be bought out as well. This isn't an overpay for 55.


Neither of those players have value in a flat cap world. Nobody is paying those players that to play their positions and paying you for the pleasure.
Sep. 1, 2020 at 6:54 p.m.
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Neither of those players have value in a flat cap world. Nobody is paying those players that to play their positions and paying you for the pleasure.


We'll see.
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Sep. 1, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.
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They aren't spare parts. Dermott is excellent just not a guy vital to our roster because of Muzzin. Too good for a third line D. Johnsson is a super quick top 6 forward who's amazing at puck retrieval and passing. It's fantastic value but i'm sure the Leafs could work out another trade and since the oilers Stanely cup win with your amazing forward supporting staff I can see how you would want to stand pat. Cheers.


Dermott is far from excellent.
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