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(STL/MTL) - Allen and 2022 7th RD pick for 2020 3rd RD pick and 2020 7th RD pick

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Sep. 2, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
#101
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Goalies that are better than Allen:
Lehner
Holtby
Markstrom
Khudobin

Greiss and Talbot are around as good as him.

So Lehner, Holtby, & Markstrom will all be number ones. Khudobin will get a pretty decent contract (definitely longer than 1 year) where he’s the 1A or 1B. As for Greiss and Talbot, I’m not sure their cap hit will be much lower than Allen’s and they’ll both get multi-year contracts.

So Allen was clearly the best choice for the habs out of goalies available now.


Not to mention none of those guys would take 1 year deals.
Sep. 2, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.
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What's the point getting a +4M backup goalie instead of boost a much needed offense??? They're paying almost 15M for 2 goalies and they already have one of the top goalies of the league. Save space to get a top scorer like Mike Hoffman or Taylor Hall and still re-sign Domi and Mete. Nonsense for Montreal, in my opinion.


because we still have 16 Million Dollars in cap space and more picks and prospects than any other team in the league. We already have 20 similar prospects that that 3rd round pick will get us
Sep. 2, 2020 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
I think you are overtinking it, but hey, it is not so farfetched.

I just think he flips him to a contender for another 3rd at TDL if Habs are out off the race.


Does he really think MTL is a legit Cup contender with their current roster? I mean, I just think that money would've been much better spent on a top six Forward or a LHD.
Sep. 2, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Brian2016
Does he really think MTL is a legit Cup contender with their current roster? I mean, I just think that money would've been much better spent on a top six Forward or a LHD.


It makes us more competitive while we sacrificed nothing. We still have 16 Million in cap space to improve our top 6 and LHD
Sep. 2, 2020 at 9:38 p.m.
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Scandella Kovalchuk
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Allen 2nd & 4th
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Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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I love it. Whats not to like? Habs got a great backup for Price and Blues got cap space they need for Pietrangelo.
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Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: HabsForEver
MASSIVE W!!

We used what we got from Kovalchuk to get Allen. Pretty much getting Allen for free. Thank you again St.Louis


No option to pick the Habs lost. Why they picked up Allen is beyond me.
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Brian2016
Does he really think MTL is a legit Cup contender with their current roster? I mean, I just think that money would've been much better spent on a top six Forward or a LHD.


Forget about LHD but Habs would still have around 5Mil, 11 without Domi, to add, let say Taylor Hall..
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:27 p.m.
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Quoting: HabsForEver
because we still have 16 Million Dollars in cap space and more picks and prospects than any other team in the league. We already have 20 similar prospects that that 3rd round pick will get us


I really dont know where you are pulling that 16Mil number. More like 4.5...
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Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
No option to pick the Habs lost. Why they picked up Allen is beyond me.


Because he's a solid goaltender?
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:32 p.m.
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Forget about LHD but Habs would still have around 5Mil, 11 without Domi, to add, let say Taylor Hall..


Where are you getting these numbers from? Making them up in your own mind?
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:32 p.m.
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I really dont know where you are pulling that 16Mil number. More like 4.5...


I'd rather listen to Capfriendly than you. Sorry
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:33 p.m.
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Because he's a solid goaltender?


He is a solid goalie, but Habs could have done a lot more.

Maybe they are interested in developing primeau more but I would have game him a shot. So many goalies available in the first month of the season.
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:37 p.m.
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I'd rather listen to Capfriendly than you. Sorry


Cap friendly says you have 14m with 6 spots to fill.
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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He is a solid goalie, but Habs could have done a lot more.

Maybe they are interested in developing primeau more but I would have game him a shot. So many goalies available in the first month of the season.


What goalies available that have 1 year left and are capable backup goaltenders? None of the FA goalies this year are likely to sign a 1 year deal. We don't need anything more because of Primeau. If Montreal isn't contending, we can retain 50% of Allen's contract and get more at the TD.
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Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Cap friendly says you have 14m with 6 spots to fill.


Capfriendly on twitter says we have 16 Million with 6 spots to fill :P
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
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Capfriendly on twitter says we have 16 Million with 6 spots to fill :P


Typo maybe? Not sure.
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
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Quoting: HabsForEver
What goalies available that have 1 year left and are capable backup goaltenders? None of the FA goalies this year are likely to sign a 1 year deal. We don't need anything more because of Primeau. If Montreal isn't contending, we can retain 50% of Allen's contract and get more at the TD.


You’re right about moving Allen later. Like I said. Just a strange move. He’s an expensive backup. Thought for sure MB would through a sheet at Barzal. Oh well....
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Typo maybe? Not sure.


Nawh, that takes into account when the Pylon Alzner is sent back down to the AHL where he belongs
Sep. 2, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.
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You’re right about moving Allen later. Like I said. Just a strange move. He’s an expensive backup. Thought for sure MB would through a sheet at Barzal. Oh well....


That's still possible if he really wanted too
Sep. 2, 2020 at 11:49 p.m.
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Where are you getting these numbers from? Making them up in your own mind?


Quoting: HabsForEver
I'd rather listen to Capfriendly than you. Sorry

Quoting: Jamiepo
Typo maybe? Not sure.



Tell me where I'm wrong:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1892405

It's a rhetorical question.
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Sep. 2, 2020 at 11:58 p.m.
#122
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Tell me where I'm wrong:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1892405

It's a rhetorical question.


I was actually agreeing with you.
Sep. 3, 2020 at 12:03 a.m.
#123
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I was actually agreeing with you.


Yeah it's all cool. I just quoted you because you were in the debate and I thought you would be interested.

So, I'm not crazy about beeing $4-5 Mil of capsace left for next year,right? Still pretty good ...
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Sep. 3, 2020 at 12:06 a.m.
#124
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Yeah it's all cool. I just quoted you because you were in the debate and I thought you would be interested.

So, I'm not crazy about beeing $4-5 Mil of capsace left for next year,right? Still pretty good ...


Do you think domi will be moved? Not bad considering you’re spending 15m on goaltending next year.

Would still love to see a Barzal OS...
Sep. 3, 2020 at 12:27 a.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Tell me where I'm wrong:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1892405

It's a rhetorical question.




 
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