Detroit will probably sign Tatar as a UFA, not give up assets for him.

That’s exactly what a rebuilding team wants, a rental. This is bad for Mantha.

The only trade on here that seems realistic is the Flames trade.

Detroit isn't trading Mantha for a rental and RHD prospect which they already have plenty of that project to be much better then Fleury and a couple mediocre picks.

Jets aren't trading Laine for a couple guys with contract question marks, Danault is a rental and Domi is up in the air with everything going on with him and his agent, everything else you're sending there is spare parts with the Habs 2020 2nd being the only decent piece, oh and calling Hudon a "solid RFA" is totally ****ing laughable... 😂

They would need him now, not wait for a year and risk him signing somewhere else.

They probably also need Mantha. 2 steps backward 1 step forward for a rebuilding team.

Actually, like MGK said, Detroit like Tatar, instead of waiting for a full season and risk losing him to another team with more cap space, they would probably like to have him now and sign him during the season to help them rebuild and coach young players. Fleury will help them rebuild their blue line since he's gotten more than 40 games in the NHL, didn't do a bad job while not a points maker, he wasn't in the low minuses. So for a young player to have those stats is a good potential they would need for their future.. You need to look past the easy one player in a trade outlook.

Also, I didn't trade Kapanen for a Denis Savard like you did.. Now that is freaking ridiculous.

Mantha seemed to be a player that was being played out by MTL, if it moves, then I would see something like this go down.

Any Laine trade begins with 2 First round picks... This isn't NHL20.

Like trading Connor for Domi and Kulak with a 2nd round pick... Now that was even worse than mine.. At least I'm giving up two 2nd rounders.. Yours made the DG of Detroit post it on his "WOW! IDIOTS AT WORK" board in the players lounge..

Laine is less valuable than Connor at this stage...
Connor 6'1" 23 yrs old: 57 (+8), 66 (-7), 73 (+4) pts last three years... They have him tied for a multi-year contract, and he's happy in WIN.
Laine 6'5" 22 yrs old: 70 (+8), 50 (-24), 63 (+8) pts last three years.. Insconsistent up for a new contract which he'll ask for more than Connor and is unhappy in WIN..

Connor has 13 pts over Laine and his plus minus is way more acceptable...

I mean, your trade is so ridiculous and way better for Montreal that I never even thought of that since it was just ridiculous that Winnipeg would trade out Connor instead of Laine.. To get Connor, you'd need three 1st rounders, your best prospect like Suzuki or KK, then give up one of your best player... Connor is not an issue in Winnipeg.. Laine is. His name comes up .. he's not happy there..

I think you need to stop commenting on other people's posts when you can't even think straight. You need to change your name ...

Well, I'm only going by what was indicated that MTL is getting int talks to. Mantha was the target point and final. I put him in and wondered what players could be acceptable to them for him.. That's it.

So the Wings are going to move a 26 year old LW cause they don't see him as part of their rebuild but they're going to a add a 30 year old LW cause he will fit with the rebuild plan, yeah that totally makes a ton of sense... Lol

You can try to explain the reasoning behind your nonsense trades all you like but no logical thinking hockey fans here are buying them.

When it comes to Mantha I would think Detroit would rather a younger forward like Domi or Drouin coming back then Tatar who will be a ufa next year

This to a T but Mantha is a RW capable of playing LW.

@OP - if you want Mantha, KK or Suzuki need to be in the offer which you don’t want to do so we can just respectively so no thanks and go other ways.

Yeah, good point.. I just traded Domi in for Laine.. But yeah, I see your point. The actual mover in this would be Fleury would came off some good number for a young defense, Tatar is to help steer the younger guys.

Calgary has 2 of the top 10 LWs in the league, why exactly do they need a LW?

I actually don't read anything MisstheWhalers posts.. In his post he traded Winnipeg's best assest to Detroit .. Look at this:

Connor, Kyle
Heinola, Ville
Niku, Sami

For

Bertuzzi, Tyler [RFA Rights]
Seider, Moritz

A 19 year old prospect, and a 48 pts scorer ... for a ****ty prospect, a kid who put up 5 pts and a minus 2 in 17 games, then to cup it all, the one guy Winnipeg needs to keep who's not complained and is set for many years put up 73 pts last year.. Really.. MisstheWhalers is high on something.

He is a fan of both Winnipeg and Detroit, so he has probably watched more of both of those teams combined than most on these boards. There is a lot to like about Seider as he’s a more physical Parayko clone and could be that highly coveted 1RD. Bertuzzi is a complete 200ft player so you can’t just compare point totals to Connor whom is a defensive liability but provides amazing offense. I’m not sure if you are saying Heinola or Niku is a crap prospect but Heinola definitely has increased his stock.

I try not to analyze the poster but rather their statements and then make my own determinations based on the facts presented. Like in this ACGM, only way Tatar makes sense with Detroit is as a FA in one year. I get you want Mantha, but if he were to sell him rentals would be the last thing on our wish list.

Edit - I just looked up that ACGM from @MisstheWhalers you reference too and he mentions adds could go either way and it was really just to mix up all the normal offers each team gets.

Detroit at that Mantha offer, And fat chance Mantha takes a 3 x 5 offer cost far more then that.

And the stupidity continues with this one.

Just reposting, so more people can see me dunking on you, once again....

1) Laine has not once complained about being in Winnipeg... It's a false narrative borne out of him asking for more ice time. In fact, he is the player who coined the overused phrase "Winnipeg is Good"

2) There's no evidence anyone "doesn't respect" him... On the contrary, Blake Wheeler offered to move to C when Little went down, because... and I quote, "By the time I'm done in the league, my goal is for Patrik Laine to be in the "best player" conversation."

3) Connor's entire success has been tied to Mark Scheifele, he mostly disappears when he and Scheifele are separated. Both Ehlers and Laine are better players than Connor. Connor is terrific at getting to the right spots finish plays, but he doesn't do any play driving, and is somehow worse defensively than Laine is.

Though, I'd prefer to see the Jets add without subtracting one of their top wingers... if they have to move one of them, Connor is the most replaceable... and it's not particularly close.

I appreciate your commitment to idiocy, though.

please move on troll..