I mean if you have to pay 6 million and a 1st round pick for Murray just keep Grubauer

I’m a huge huge Grubauer fan and agree with you but I think this is on the line of what is going to happen.

I honestly see no reason why the Avs shoud do this, you're basically trading a league average, injury prone goaltender with a nice contract signed for next year with another injury prone, league average, inconsistent goaltender who's a RFA and is gonna command a lot of money because he has cups on his resume, also downgrading your pick and giving away a player.
Sounds like a bad deal

Concussions aren’t being injury prone.. it’s just bad luck. Fleury has had issues there too and wouldn’t think twice about getting him. Murray is definitely not a Fleury but he’s not league average, he’s a step above Grubauer (legit starter) when he’s on. If they want to go for a big fish like Lehner or Holtby it’s going to cost them more $$$ which they can’t afford with contracts needing re-upped.

This draft is also supposed to drop off (projected obviously) after top 10 so I wouldn’t be surprised to see lots of 1sts moved especially with flat cap

change murray to jarry then maybe

He is league average, to be precise he's always been slightly below league average for the last three years

That’s an awful waste of assets in downgrading the avs net

Then it would be considerable more from Colorado.

Then you would have to add more for Jarry.

Just because Penguins fans value Jarry more than Murray doesn’t make it reality. Fair value would cost less, not more.

No, he's a much cheaper RFA who is more highly sought on the trade market according TSN. Therefore his value would be higher because of the cap implications. Murray's contract demands are going to make his value lower.

Virtually every team interested in Murray except Toronto can afford him. Murray is a 2x champion and proven winner.. Jarry has had one good season. His value is not higher than Murray lol

Murray will go for a first and a decent player/prospect, so by that logic Jarry is a 1st + good player/prospect? Nah. Classic case of a team looking at their needs and saying that’s the value of a player. If they believe that at all

Okay... Then the trade should be Murray for MacKinnon. Just because Avalanche fans value MacKinnon more than Tynan doesn't make it reality.

You’re proving my point for me?

Trades shouldn’t be based on the teams value of said player, it should be based off value. Unless the players value and worth to the team is close.

You get attached to certain players that’s how you get bad contracts. Ex: Flyers really wanted JVR and now grossly overpaid him. Their value of him was a big top 6 forward and they thought he deserved that contract, while not many else is in the league thought that he was worth $7 million. Everyone else thought they paid $7 million for a decent top 6 player who probably will regress since the game is getting faster.. which he has

Pens want to keep Jarry. That’s fine, but don’t pretend his worth is higher than it is just because yllou value him more. No one is paying the same for him as they would for Murray except a team with major cap issues like Toronto

Holtby has actually been worse the past 3 years than Murray
.907, .911, .897 save percentages for holtby
.907, .919. .899 save percentages for Murray.

So it definitely makes more sense to go after Murray than it is to go after Holtby.

a 1st is already really high value for a goalie.

No, he is worth more because he is worth more. Penguin fans were attached to Fleury. No one is actually attached to Jarry. He is simply worth more than what Murray, and What was put for Murray above (Tynan, 1st) is on par for Murray. Since Jarry is worth more it would need to be Tynan, 1st, +

Are you an Avs fan? Because they literally traded a 1st and a 2nd for Varlamov in like 2012.

Bringing up a trade from 8 years ago doesn’t make a lot of sense. Market has changed drastically since then

That pick also turned out to be Filip Forsberg soooo Avs lost that deal badly

and a 2nd + cap dump for grubauer in 2018. lesson was learned.