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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 9, 2020
Published: Sep. 10, 2020
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    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:41 p.m.
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    every single trade is awful for montreal
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:44 p.m.
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    What does Vegas want with Chiarot? They have McNabb for cheaper and they can sign Dillon. Don't want overpaid Byron either.
    Tuch isn't moving. Period.
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    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: lebronisdagoat
    every single trade is awful for montreal


    No it's not
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:54 p.m.
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    Oh boy... I don't know where to begin... this is wrong... on so many levels.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:54 p.m.
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    What does Vegas want with Chiarot? They have McNabb for cheaper and they can sign Dillon. Don't want overpaid Byron either.
    Tuch isn't moving. Period.


    Chiarot is better than them. Oh he'll move watch out
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:56 p.m.
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    Oh boy... I don't know where to begin... this is wrong... on so many levels.


    So you think the current edition of the Habs is better than the one I put together?
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:56 p.m.
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    you realize the following year you will lose Petry and KK. Then Suzuki a years later.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:57 p.m.
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    So you think the current edition of the Habs is better than the one I put together?


    I wouldn’t do Norlinder vs Lindell lmao @SevenLeg
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    Sep. 10, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.
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    So you think the current edition of the Habs is better than the one I put together?


    To my previous reply - I think you sacrifice longterm success for immediate gains... which for the past 16 years has shown to be a terrible plan.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    you realize the following year you will lose Petry and KK. Then Suzuki a years later.


    If Petry wants more than 5 mill at 34 yrs old he can take the door. Juulsen and Fleury will do just fine at RD. So that's 5.5 mill off the books. Allen will get the boot and that's another 4.5 mill available. Not stressing.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:09 p.m.
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    To my previous reply - I think you sacrifice longterm success for immediate gains... which for the past 16 years has shown to be a terrible plan.


    We've been "rebuilding" for 16 yrs. We finally got studs in Zukes and KK let's give them an arsenal to work with. We got our Centers, we got the D and we have Primeau. Everyone else will be a revolving door.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    If Petry wants more than 5 mill at 34 yrs old he can take the door. Juulsen and Fleury will do just fine at RD. So that's 5.5 mill off the books. Allen will get the boot and that's another 4.5 mill available. Not stressing.


    It's mostly our futur being pawned off for pieces we probably won't need after Romanov.

    Especially the OEL trade where you pawn off Caufield

    And the Lindell trade where you send a possible top 2 in Norlinder plus a Tanev type D in Harris...

    Plus it's too early to ship out Danault... KK and Suzuki, even if they had a good playoff run, are not ready to take the defensive mission Danault took all season
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    We've been "rebuilding" for 16 yrs. We finally got studs in Zukes and KK let's give them an arsenal to work with. We got our Centers, we got the D and we have Primeau. Everyone else will be a revolving door.


    we've been rebuilding for the past 5 years... thats the reason we have all theses asset coming up the pipeline.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    It's mostly our futur being pawned off for pieces we probably won't need after Romanov.

    Especially the OEL trade where you pawn off Caufield

    And the Lindell trade where you send a possible top 2 in Norlinder plus a Tanev type D in Harris...

    Plus it's too early to ship out Danault... KK and Suzuki, even if they had a good playoff run, are not ready to take the defensive mission Danault took all season


    Danault is asking for 7+ mill. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Phil
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:14 p.m.
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    Danault is asking for 7+ mill. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Phil


    lol, he won't get that on the market.

    We will resign him at 5.5M for 8 years.. and maximum 6M.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:19 p.m.
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    we've been rebuilding for the past 5 years... thats the reason we have all theses asset coming up the pipeline.


    Ok time out there, I love our prospects and I admire the way they've drafted, on paper we have a top 5 pipeline. But it's still on paper. So we know that not all prospects will pan out cause that's the law of averages. I'm not gonna wait to see how it will unfold. We're stuck with Weber and Price so might as well go all in. I barely gave up any significant draft picks, the cupboard will replenish quickly enough.
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    Ok time out there, I love our prospects and I admire the way they've drafted, on paper we have a top 5 pipeline. But it's still on paper. So we know that not all prospects will pan out cause that's the law of averages. I'm not gonna wait to see how it will unfold. We're stuck with Weber and Price so might as well go all in. I barely gave up any significant draft picks, the cupboard will replenish quickly enough.


    I'd do some of the trade, not all of y
    Quoting: The_Architect
    Ok time out there, I love our prospects and I admire the way they've drafted, on paper we have a top 5 pipeline. But it's still on paper. So we know that not all prospects will pan out cause that's the law of averages. I'm not gonna wait to see how it will unfold. We're stuck with Weber and Price so might as well go all in. I barely gave up any significant draft picks, the cupboard will replenish quickly enough.


    I'd do some of the trades, but not all of them at the same time. That's how you break a lockerroom
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:25 p.m.
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    lol, he won't get that on the market.

    We will resign him at 5.5M for 8 years.. and maximum 6M.


    No way. He's asking for 7 cause of the high taxes. States with no income tax can offer him 5.5, he wouldn't take that in MTL. I think he deserves 6. But i won't favor him more ice time than Zukes and KK so there's not really an option. Is it just a coincidence that 3 teams from no income tax states are in the semis?
    Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:29 p.m.
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    No way. He's asking for 7 cause of the high taxes. States with no income tax can offer him 5.5, he wouldn't take that in MTL. I think he deserves 6. But i won't favor him more ice time than Zukes and KK so there's not really an option. Is it just a coincidence that 3 teams from no income tax states are in the semis?


    maybe... we'll see after this off-season
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    Sep. 11, 2020 at 12:06 a.m.
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    every single trade is awful for montreal


    That trade is awful for Vegas. Flames also reject. Killorn stays in Tampa too. Don’t know how those trades are bad for MTL
    Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:03 a.m.
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    What does Vegas want with Chiarot? They have McNabb for cheaper and they can sign Dillon. Don't want overpaid Byron either.
    Tuch isn't moving. Period.

    Bingo
    Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:05 a.m.
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    @mhockey91 @MTLaveragefan @GMs @MGK @VGKNation702

    ill sum it all up ftb

    1. Josh Anderson is not worth almost 5mil. Hes injury prone and he had ONE goal last year
    2. Mete will definitely get more than that
    3. Vegas takes an L on that trade. Getting another LHD and an overpaid 4th liner for a solid top 6
    4. Tatar for JVR is blasphemy. JVR is heavily overpaid and tatar was the best scorer on MTL. why would bergevin do that??
    5. Giving up lehky, ylonen and a third for killorn doesnt make sense. giving up all those future assets just for a fat contract with killorn just aint right
    6. The Arizona trade might be the worst one. kulak for oel would make sense if u added a few picks but for CAUFIELD AND STRUBLE!?!?!?!?!!?!?
    7. Again if it was Armia and a few picks for lindell it would be ok but NORLINDER AND HARRIS on top of that?
    8. Not getting a single player back for danault doesnt make much sense
    9. Gallagher isnt getting traded. I dont have to say much more, he is the heart and soul of the team and why swap him for Lindholm?
    10. MTL doesnt need to get rid of Alzner and all those picks he has one more year on the contract, thats it
    11. the team is worse than before and the fact that you are defending every single trade is beyond me

    i aint tryna be mean or anything but i hope u could learn from this and stop trading away the whole future for older guys that will be UFAs in a few years

    merry christmas
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    Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:12 a.m.
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    @mhockey91 @MTLaveragefan @GMs @MGK @VGKNation702

    ill sum it all up ftb

    1. Josh Anderson is not worth almost 5mil. Hes injury prone and he had ONE goal last year
    2. Mete will definitely get more than that
    3. Vegas takes an L on that trade. Getting another LHD and an overpaid 4th liner for a solid top 6
    4. Tatar for JVR is blasphemy. JVR is heavily overpaid and tatar was the best scorer on MTL. why would bergevin do that??
    5. Giving up lehky, ylonen and a third for killorn doesnt make sense. giving up all those future assets just for a fat contract with killorn just aint right
    6. The Arizona trade might be the worst one. kulak for oel would make sense if u added a few picks but for CAUFIELD AND STRUBLE!?!?!?!?!!?!?
    7. Again if it was Armia and a few picks for lindell it would be ok but NORLINDER AND HARRIS on top of that?
    8. Not getting a single player back for danault doesnt make much sense
    9. Gallagher isnt getting traded. I dont have to say much more, he is the heart and soul of the team and why swap him for Lindholm?
    10. MTL doesnt need to get rid of Alzner and all those picks he has one more year on the contract, thats it
    11. the team is worse than before and the fact that you are defending every single trade is beyond me

    i aint tryna be mean or anything but i hope u could learn from this and stop trading away the whole future for older guys that will be UFAs in a few years

    merry christmas


    1- i agree with anderson
    2- mete too
    3- yeah vegas takes an L
    4- agreed tatar for JVR doesnt make much sense for MTL. would be better to sell him for picks/ prospects
    5- i still think tampa will keep killorn if they can. they will move TJ and Gourde first
    6- thats probably what a retained OEL would cost. a top prospect like caufield would have to go the other way.
    7- im not a fan of Lindell but i doubt dallas trades him since they'd have no LHD behind Heiskanen
    8- danault netting a 9th overall pick + a 2nd and 3rd is an overpay. Danault is a great player, but at 9th overall, you could draft someone better. no way minny does that
    9- gally wont be traded but once again, lindholm is younger and signed to a great contract. calgary wouldnt do that
    10- they can bury alzner again sure
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    Sep. 11, 2020 at 2:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    That trade is awful for Vegas. Flames also reject. Killorn stays in Tampa too. Don’t know how those trades are bad for MTL


    Vegas trade is good for MTL the rest no ( maybe CGY trade is even but Gallagher is the heart and soul of this team )
    Sep. 11, 2020 at 7:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: lebronisdagoat
    @mhockey91 @MTLaveragefan @GMs @MGK @VGKNation702

    ill sum it all up ftb

    1. Josh Anderson is not worth almost 5mil. Hes injury prone and he had ONE goal last year
    2. Mete will definitely get more than that
    3. Vegas takes an L on that trade. Getting another LHD and an overpaid 4th liner for a solid top 6
    4. Tatar for JVR is blasphemy. JVR is heavily overpaid and tatar was the best scorer on MTL. why would bergevin do that??
    5. Giving up lehky, ylonen and a third for killorn doesnt make sense. giving up all those future assets just for a fat contract with killorn just aint right
    6. The Arizona trade might be the worst one. kulak for oel would make sense if u added a few picks but for CAUFIELD AND STRUBLE!?!?!?!?!!?!?
    7. Again if it was Armia and a few picks for lindell it would be ok but NORLINDER AND HARRIS on top of that?
    8. Not getting a single player back for danault doesnt make much sense
    9. Gallagher isnt getting traded. I dont have to say much more, he is the heart and soul of the team and why swap him for Lindholm?
    10. MTL doesnt need to get rid of Alzner and all those picks he has one more year on the contract, thats it
    11. the team is worse than before and the fact that you are defending every single trade is beyond me

    i aint tryna be mean or anything but i hope u could learn from this and stop trading away the whole future for older guys that will be UFAs in a few years

    merry christmas


    Wow you really wanted to get that off your chest.

    Yes you make legit points but it's like lying by leaving half the truth out.

    I don't think you actually watch any of those players I acquired play.

    Apart from the Vegas trade which i expected the general reaction, every other point you made is easily debatable. But in the end it's just different philosophies. And we have totaly opposite philosophies. Especially the way you're emotionally attached to players...it's not healthy.
     
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