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Realistic FA and Trade

Created by: nat008
Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 11, 2020
Published: Sep. 11, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Figuring out a way to get more picks while also clearing cap space for our bottom six is what is likely going to happen. I don't think Kempny get's moved and I believe he deserves another season to see if he can play like he did in 17-18. Jensen also stays as he killed it in the playoffs and was solid in the latter half of the season. We probably look for depth players in UFA.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,500,000
2$3,330,000
2$2,800,000
Trades
WSH
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
DET
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. Pánik, Richard
  3. Pilon, Garrett
Additional Details:
Detroit gets two solid bottom 6 players and a bottom six prospect for our cap dump in return for a 2nd.
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$71,930,712$419,749$732,500$9,569,288
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
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UFA - 1
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$9,200,000$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,166,667$5,166,667
RW
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UFA - 4
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,415,000$2,415,000
C
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167
LW, C
RFA - 4
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
G
UFA - 1
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$791,667$791,667 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,330,000$3,330,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2

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Sep. 11, 2020 at 6:53 p.m.
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Detroit's not trading a 2nd round pick for two bottom six players on bad contracts lol. If anything, you'd have to throw a second in there just to get them to take on those contracts. Also that is way too much for Namestnikov
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.
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We have plenty of bottom 6 guys, I don't want to give a 2nd for more of them. I like panik but I'm not paying alot for him.
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 7:04 p.m.
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arky
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Why would Wings eat cap so you can get get better and we give up a pick. You my friend have it backwards
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 8:20 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Quoting: Jfstompers
We have plenty of bottom 6 guys, I don't want to give a 2nd for more of them. I like panik but I'm not paying alot for him.


This says it correctly. Well done.

Quoting: willdog37
Detroit's not trading a 2nd round pick for two bottom six players on bad contracts lol. If anything, you'd have to throw a second in there just to get them to take on those contracts. Also that is way too much for Namestnikov


This is just factually incorrect.

Cost per point calculator has the following guys at $125k per point this past season: Patrick Kane, Alex Kerfoot, Nazem Kadri, RIchard Panik. The contract is fine, but Detroit has no need and isn't swapping away picks.

Hagelin's cost per point this year was 110k, whereas Kucherov was at 111k.

They're on decent contracts. Washington just doesn't need them.
Sep. 11, 2020 at 8:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
This says it correctly. Well done.



This is just factually incorrect.

Cost per point calculator has the following guys at $125k per point this past season: Patrick Kane, Alex Kerfoot, Nazem Kadri, RIchard Panik. The contract is fine, but Detroit has no need and isn't swapping away picks.

Hagelin's cost per point this year was 110k, whereas Kucherov was at 111k.

They're on decent contracts. Washington just doesn't need them.


I like panik alot. He's a good team guy and I had detroit signing him a bunch on here before he ended up in washington. You just need guys like him.
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Sep. 11, 2020 at 8:57 p.m.
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You are asking Detroit to take a $16.5M cap dump and give up a 2nd for Pilon?
Sep. 11, 2020 at 9:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
This says it correctly. Well done.



This is just factually incorrect.

Cost per point calculator has the following guys at $125k per point this past season: Patrick Kane, Alex Kerfoot, Nazem Kadri, RIchard Panik. The contract is fine, but Detroit has no need and isn't swapping away picks.

Hagelin's cost per point this year was 110k, whereas Kucherov was at 111k.

They're on decent contracts. Washington just doesn't need them.


LOL he pulled out the cost per point on me. Kucherov makes 9.5 million don't even try to compare the two
Sep. 11, 2020 at 9:53 p.m.
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I wish the rest of the caps fans would understand this....
Hagelin, was not signed to score. sure, secondary scoring is GREAT, he was singed for one reason and one reason only, to KILL F'n Penalties..

He is not going to give you 15,20,25 or 30 goals.. HE is going to kill. That's what he is here for. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Trade him and now you are back to using 19 on the PK... Typically you want to avoid that..

Now, panik, I would pay Detroit to take him.. its a salary dump.. so a 4th should be about the cost... along with a prospect to say thanks for the help.
Sep. 11, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
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I wish the rest of the caps fans would understand this....
Hagelin, was not signed to score. sure, secondary scoring is GREAT, he was singed for one reason and one reason only, to KILL F'n Penalties..

He is not going to give you 15,20,25 or 30 goals.. HE is going to kill. That's what he is here for. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Trade him and now you are back to using 19 on the PK... Typically you want to avoid that..

Now, panik, I would pay Detroit to take him.. its a salary dump.. so a 4th should be about the cost... along with a prospect to say thanks for the help.


You don't like Panik on PK? Interesting. I thought they signed him because he had played 90 minutes the year before on Arizona's league leading PK.

Quoting: willdog37
LOL he pulled out the cost per point on me. Kucherov makes 9.5 million don't even try to compare the two


If they each played 82 games, Panik was on pace for 31 points this year, and Hagelin was on pace for 35. They each make 2.75M/year. For mid-career checking wings, the value is solid.

For comparison, in Detroit's bottom six, Luke Glendening cost $200k per point last year, Darren Helm $240k, Justin Abdelkader, $1.46 million.

If Detroit wanted slightly better contracts in their bottom six, they make this trade. But they don't. They want to get younger and develop future superstars. So they pass, even before it costs a 2nd they're not parting with.
 
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