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Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 23, 2020
Published: Sep. 23, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$800,000
3$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,750,000
3$2,750,000
2$1,750,000
2$800,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,800,000
1$750,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Warsofsky, David
  3. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Bowers, Shane
  2. Nichushkin, Valeri [RFA Rights]
  3. Timmins, Conor
  4. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Leafs sign pietrangelo
2.
COL
  1. Boyd, Travis [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,486,294$0$2,925,000$2,013,706
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C
RFA
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.
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Sure
Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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I don't think Byram will be playing in the NHL next season; he's not as close as some people believe. Nylander is tempting but the Avs have Cup aspirations and what they really need is a strong PK forward and a physical presence on the back end that can take Z's place but be more consistent than Z; Bogo could be that guy.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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TOR can keep Warsofsky
Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.
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TOR can keep Warsofsky


Really!? Thank you!!!
Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.
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As a leafs fan who doesn’t want to trade Nylander, I think this is the most intriguing proposal i’ve seen. Knowing our trade history luck with the Avs Nylander will find a way to score like 90 points, but both teams would actually benefit from this if this allowed leafs to sign Pietro to a decent deal.
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:02 p.m.
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I don't think the Leafs get better trading an established top-6 30 goal guy for a bunch of futures. If the Leafs need to clear cap room it is through trading off complimentary pieces, not core pieces.

The Leafs don't want futures anymore than the Avs do. Both teams are trying to win now, this trade only allows one team to do that.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.
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Nylander is crazy good, if you can get him it would be very hard to turn that down, that said there are a good bit of issues with this deal.

1) Tor can move Kap or AJ to get Petro, they don't need to move him
2) Tor is looking to win now so futures don't make as much sense
3) Timmins is a very valuable piece but not what Tor needs

4) Having Bura, Gabe and Mikko already adding Nylander would mean A LOT of money tied up in the wings, which while not the worst will make things a little tight. So with this trade you would have
to be open to possibly moving Bura or losing Gabe at some point
5) With adding salary it likely makes keeping Bowers all that much more important, you would likely try to find another player to move
6) Same with Val, that is a guy who you would really try to swap out for another player


I think a year ago the Avs would jump on this but now I don't really see it as much. He's so good you probably don't care but its less ideal
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: newballcoach
I don't think the Leafs get better trading an established top-6 30 goal guy for a bunch of futures. If the Leafs need to clear cap room it is through trading off complimentary pieces, not core pieces.

The Leafs don't want futures anymore than the Avs do. Both teams are trying to win now, this trade only allows one team to do that.


Quoting: Meeqs
Nylander is crazy good, if you can get him it would be very hard to turn that down, that said there are a good bit of issues with this deal.

1) Tor can move Kap or AJ to get Petro, they don't need to move him
2) Tor is looking to win now so futures don't make as much sense
3) Timmins is a very valuable piece but not what Tor needs

4) Having Bura, Gabe and Mikko already adding Nylander would mean A LOT of money tied up in the wings, which while not the worst will make things a little tight. So with this trade you would have
to be open to possibly moving Bura or losing Gabe at some point
5) With adding salary it likely makes keeping Bowers all that much more important, you would likely try to find another player to move
6) Same with Val, that is a guy who you would really try to swap out for another player


I think a year ago the Avs would jump on this but now I don't really see it as much. He's so good you probably don't care but its less ideal


The reason toronto would trade nylander for futures is to clear cap room for pietrangelo - the trade wouldnt happen otherwise. If I'm Dubas and I can sign Pietrangelo at 8x7 (a big if), it makes way way more sense to make that signing and then get a nice haul for nylander, than it does to trade Nylander straight up for a top 4 d who is probably inferior to Pietro.

Also, the only way toronto could sign pietro without moving a big contract is by replacing virtually every single bottom six piece with guys making league minimum and running a 20 man roster all season. Just a horrible idea
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Meeqs
Nylander is crazy good, if you can get him it would be very hard to turn that down, that said there are a good bit of issues with this deal.

1) Tor can move Kap or AJ to get Petro, they don't need to move him
2) Tor is looking to win now so futures don't make as much sense
3) Timmins is a very valuable piece but not what Tor needs

4) Having Bura, Gabe and Mikko already adding Nylander would mean A LOT of money tied up in the wings, which while not the worst will make things a little tight. So with this trade you would have
to be open to possibly moving Bura or losing Gabe at some point
5) With adding salary it likely makes keeping Bowers all that much more important, you would likely try to find another player to move
6) Same with Val, that is a guy who you would really try to swap out for another player


I think a year ago the Avs would jump on this but now I don't really see it as much. He's so good you probably don't care but its less ideal


I agree with that. The Avs are going to have to make smart but meaningful deals to improve the team. Nylander would have been great before they got Bura but they need strong PK wings who can chip in but aren't relied on to score a ton. I'd actually take Mikheyev (whom TOR doesn't want to trade) over Nylander right now.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: truculence67
The reason toronto would trade nylander for futures is to clear cap room for pietrangelo - the trade wouldnt happen otherwise. If I'm Dubas and I can sign Pietrangelo at 8x7 (a big if), it makes way way more sense to make that signing and then get a nice haul for nylander, than it does to trade Nylander straight up for a top 4 d who is probably inferior to Pietro.

Also, the only way toronto could sign pietro without moving a big contract is by replacing virtually every single bottom six piece with guys making league minimum and running a 20 man roster all season. Just a horrible idea


I know why you made the trade. I read the description. Your statement about the bottom 6 and 20 man is factually incorrect and you know that, so please don't make it. There are dozens of ACGM's here a day where the Leafs sign him and none of them have that reality. Does it make things tighter, absolutely. But they would not need to turn around and trade Nylander.

Getting a good player doesn't mean you have to trade another. That makes your team worse, Toronto doesn't want to get worse.

It's a good thing you're not MISTER Kyle Dubas, General Manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: truculence67
The reason toronto would trade nylander for futures is to clear cap room for pietrangelo - the trade wouldnt happen otherwise. If I'm Dubas and I can sign Pietrangelo at 8x7 (a big if), it makes way way more sense to make that signing and then get a nice haul for nylander, than it does to trade Nylander straight up for a top 4 d who is probably inferior to Pietro.

Also, the only way toronto could sign pietro without moving a big contract is by replacing virtually every single bottom six piece with guys making league minimum and running a 20 man roster all season. Just a horrible idea


Right but:
1) why would you trade Nylander if you don't have to and can just move a depth player like Kerf/AJ instead and still get Petro
2) IF you move Nylander you can certainly find a much better deal that fits your needs in the way this one doesnt
3) As long as Dubas is the GM I doubt he is moved, they have been in spots where it makes much more sense than this to move him and didnt
Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
I agree with that. The Avs are going to have to make smart but meaningful deals to improve the team. Nylander would have been great before they got Bura but they need strong PK wings who can chip in but aren't relied on to score a ton. I'd actually take Mikheyev (whom TOR doesn't want to trade) over Nylander right now.


They do need a 2nd line winger and you can always find plenty of Pkers in the bottom 6 which isn't too big of an issue. Plus idk if Dubas plans on trading with Sakic again any time soon
Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Hidalgo
Really!? Thank you!!!


Ok you can keep the 4th too!
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
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They do need a 2nd line winger and you can always find plenty of Pkers in the bottom 6 which isn't too big of an issue. Plus idk if Dubas plans on trading with Sakic again any time soon


LMAO - yeah, Dubas is probably not taking any calls from Joe. Yeah, they do need another 2nd line wing. I think they could get someone like Dadonov on a short deal.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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LMAO - yeah, Dubas is probably not taking any calls from Joe. Yeah, they do need another 2nd line wing. I think they could get someone like Dadonov on a short deal.


I would avoid daddy personally. He has been in decline the past few years and has been stapled to Barkov. A lot of bust potential on that one
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 4:25 p.m.
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I don't see Bogosian signing that cheap
Sep. 24, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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I don't see Bogosian signing that cheap


Does 1.8x2 get it done?
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Sep. 24, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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Quoting: newballcoach
I know why you made the trade. I read the description. Your statement about the bottom 6 and 20 man is factually incorrect and you know that, so please don't make it. There are dozens of ACGM's here a day where the Leafs sign him and none of them have that reality. Does it make things tighter, absolutely. But they would not need to turn around and trade Nylander.

Getting a good player doesn't mean you have to trade another. That makes your team worse, Toronto doesn't want to get worse.

It's a good thing you're not MISTER Kyle Dubas, General Manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs.


Quoting: Meeqs
Right but:
1) why would you trade Nylander if you don't have to and can just move a depth player like Kerf/AJ instead and still get Petro
2) IF you move Nylander you can certainly find a much better deal that fits your needs in the way this one doesnt
3) As long as Dubas is the GM I doubt he is moved, they have been in spots where it makes much more sense than this to move him and didnt


It’s simple math. If leafs sign pietro at 8 per (which is the lowest deal I could see him taking) and after resigning mikheyev and and dermott they will have to clear AT LEAST 6mil off the books. So yes you can make that work by moving some combination of kerfoot/AJ/Engvall/holl but then you still have to replace those guys which is much easier said than done.

IMO depth was the leafs biggest problem this past year and replacing solid bottom six players with scrap heap guys is a massive mistake. As good as pietrangelo is, Toronto’s lineup is way too top heavy already
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