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Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 5:58 pm
Thread: Winger logjam
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>You overpaid Holl.

We are weaker on LW then RW, move Kapanen instead of Johnsson.

TVR is 3rd pair, paying him to be healthy scratch? Pass.

Eakin will likely get more money elsewhere, no reason to pay that much to 4th line C... so many cheap options out there


Rather invest that money in paying Andersen or Riley going forward.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>As far as defensive th goes I would say we are stronger on the left. Left handed anyway. Certainly more skill on the right with Willy and Mitch. Butt our depth on the left is Johnsson mikheyev Moore engvall Korshkov and Robertson as sure fire nhlers. Then Petan and Timashov. Due to the fact that Hyman is great on the left and with the skill on the right he will most likely stay a left winger... that leaves us with Willy mitch kappy and spezza on the right. I would say our easiest to move pieces would be a left hand winger.</div></div>

Definitely agree with <a href="/users/jamiepo" target="_blank">@jamiepo</a>. Would also add that kapanen’s skill set is more difficult to replace than johnsson’s. I also think he has more upside if he can ever figure out how to finish.

Also, the lack of d depth has been a huge issue for the leafs. Sandin and liljgren are probably going to be solid for them next year but who knows - that’s a big question mark. I’d rather overpay a proven veteran defenseman to sit in the press box for the whole season than have to watch Martin marincin play 20 minutes a night if there’s an injury, liljegren cant hack it, holl struggles, etc.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 5:44 pm
Thread: Winger logjam
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>Disagree... Holl&gt;tvr Holl logs bigger minutes.

Holl GAR 4.0 WAR 0.7

TVR GAR -0.9 WAR -0.3

This idea that any Dman is better than leafs Dmen is ridiculous.

Holl has been nothing short of great this season, why would we not re sign him?</div></div>

Tvr and holl are comparable, though tvr is a more proven commodity. I think there’s definitely the possibility for regression for Holl and the obvious risk of having two young rookie defenseman pencilled into the lineup which is why I dont mind the idea of overpaying for a solid 7th dman.

Not entirely sold on hamonic, but there aren’t many better UFA options (not counting pietrangelo), especially RHDs. Muzzin’s better but I’d be nervous about giving him term. He has racked up some HARD minutes over his career with all those deep playoff runs with the kings and I can’t help but think that his body is going to start to wear down sooner rather than later
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 28 at 11:08
Thread: Mango or Kap - Id say Mango
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigAnderson</b></div><div>Kapanen has higher value because of his speed, penalty kill ability, and he’s also stepped up his physical play this year.


Kerfoot really isn’t that good as a centre and played mostly on the wing last year. Plus Leafs have Matthews, Tavares, Spezza, &amp; Nylander that can play in the middle on the top 6 if need be. Spezza, Nylander, Gauthier, Shore, &amp; Engvall could all step into bottom 6 centre roles as well. Leafs are more than 3 deep at centre.</div></div>

Unfortunately for the leafs I think that at least 2/3 of kerfoot, kapanen, johnsson will be moved in the next year or two once Andersen and Rielly need new contracts. It’s the same problem all good teams run into. You have to find ways to fill out your bottom 9 with ELCs and buy-low projects if you have as many stars as the leafs do. Otherwise you get burned every summer like Chicago did when emerging studs get paid