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truculence67

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Forum: Armchair-GMApr 15 at 11:48
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 25 at 11:15
Thread: Overhaul
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pasha123</b></div><div>the cost of an upcoming UFA in Montour in this climate to a contending team at 50% retention is a 2nd round pick. No-one is giving Buffalo a 1st plus 2 players least of from Vancouver.
But I can offer Buffalo, Edler at 50% for Mittlestade, Jokiharju and a 2021 1st. This would be a similar proposal to yours.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pasha123</b></div><div>the cost of an upcoming UFA in Montour in this climate to a contending team at 50% retention is a 2nd round pick. No-one is giving Buffalo a 1st plus 2 players least of from Vancouver.
But I can offer Buffalo, Edler at 50% for Mittlestade, Jokiharju and a 2021 1st. This would be a similar proposal to yours.</div></div>

Where is the first in this trade you keep talking about?
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 25 at 5:03
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 24 at 11:56
Thread: Subban
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>I agree that Trouba has the chance to bounce back, but the Devils shouldn't take that risk. The term really kills that contract. A couple years down the line when the Devils need to pay Hughes, Bratt, Blackwood, etc, Trouba's big contract may hurt the Devils</div></div>

I don’t really see any young guys on the devils breaking the bank as rfa’s (by that I mean rantanen/marner/matthews money) and New Jersey doesn’t have any long-term expensive veterans on their roster either. So I think the devils are actually in a very sound situation cap wise. The rangers on the other hand already have 18 million locked up in panarin and Kreider, zibanejad and buchnevich will get fat new extensions and they have another 4-5 great young players coming off ELCs in the next two years. Plus a ****load of dead money on the books.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 24 at 11:45
Thread: Subban
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Book_Hockey</b></div><div>God no. Trouba contract is one of the worst in hockey and he’s signed for 6 more seasons. Subbans is done after next year.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FreeTacosAreBestTacos</b></div><div>Rangers decline. Subban's cooked, and Trouba is a Top 4 Dman, and will almost certainly be one for the duration of his contract. Realistically, Lundkvist is trade bait and Schneider is multiple years off from being a viable Top 4 option, and the Rangers have no one else in house to fill that slot.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Devils easily pass. Subban has less term than Trouba</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Subban is a better player on a better contract. NJD declines.</div></div>

Here’s my reasoning: Trouba has not played up to his contract whatsoever but he’s only 26 and has shown that he has the potential to be a top-20 dman in the nhl. It is undeniably a risky deal for New Jersey, but the devils have oodles of cap space for the next few years and zero depth on the right side after severson and maybe Reilly Walsh. A change of scenery might be exactly what trouba needs to find his game again, and if he can, the devils add a huge piece on the backend that a lot of other teams with great young forward pieces have spent years trying to find (hello Toronto).

From the rangers point of view, they have a plethora of stellar d prospects but are going to have some big cap problems in 2-3 years when all of their young guys become RFA’s. If trouba doesn’t improve by then, his contract will be unmoveable (especially with a full NMC so it will be better to cut their losses on trouba now while he still has value as a reclamation project than trying to do so down the road. Subban is a nice veteran stopgap on the second pair until Schneider and lundkvist are NHL ready
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 15 at 2:08
Thread: End of the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>Wasted cap hit if Edm buys out Neil this summer
20/21 $3.8MM (Pouliot $ Sekera)
21/22 $3.4MM (Sekera &amp; Neal)
22/23 $3.4MM (Sekera &amp; Neal)
23/24 $1.9MM (Neal)
24/25 $1.9MM (Neal)

As for the trade, you have to give the picks just to get rid of Neal, the 2nd for 21/22 of his contract, and the 1st for 22/23 of his contract, and the cost to acquire Dadonov hasn't even been addressed yet.

BTW, don't even suggest it wouldn't cost to get rid of Neal after you just suggested the Oilers should buy him out.</div></div>

“Cost to acquire Dadonov”... what would that be exactly? A 31 year old with a 5mil cap hit on pace for less than 25 points this season. Good luck finding a trading partner without taking a bad contract back. The main reason Edmonton bites on this deal is that dadonov could be an excellent linemate for mcDavid.

I actually think that a first + Neal would get this deal done but added the second in case dadonov heats up later this season