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Boqi Tinker Tinker

Created by: FedererSmooth
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 30, 2020
Published: Sep. 30, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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This baby contends. Question is does it cost more for Boqvist and Manson.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$874,125
2$700,000
2$925,000
3$1,900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
2$1,700,000
1$1,100,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Sandin, Rasmus
  2. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
2.
ANA
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
ARI
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
Yotes save 3.5m real dollars
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the TOR
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Logo of the WPG
2021
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
2022
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Logo of the TOR
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,370,575$0$850,000$3,129,425

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,900,000$1,900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$874,125$874,125
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$5,275,000$5,275,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4

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Sep. 30, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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tbh I don't know how to feel about that trade
Sep. 30, 2020 at 3:14 p.m.
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I can't even with these Manson trades anymore. Why are we giving up so much for someone when there are guys in free agency who are way better and who will have a lower cap hit. Demelo, Brodie, even Gudas are all guys I would take over Manson. So please stop. The leafs don't want him. If they did they would have had him by now, trust me.

Also for the last time the Yotes have absolutely 0 need for Andersen. Stop trading him there
Sep. 30, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
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That's not getting you Boqvist. Bird in hand rather then gamble with the 15th OA pick and Sandin, meaning Boqvist has already proven the kind of talent he brings and the significant upside.
Sep. 30, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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TOR is going to want to keep Sandin. Hawks want to keep Boqvist.
Sep. 30, 2020 at 3:40 p.m.
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Quoting: themostleTaf33
I can't even with these Manson trades anymore. Why are we giving up so much for someone when there are guys in free agency who are way better and who will have a lower cap hit. Demelo, Brodie, even Gudas are all guys I would take over Manson. So please stop. The leafs don't want him. If they did they would have had him by now, trust me.

Also for the last time the Yotes have absolutely 0 need for Andersen. Stop trading him there


What if Toronto takes Bracco out of the trade?

Yotes have 0 need for Andersen and save 3.5 mil in real dollars trading Kuemper for a 'normal' Andersen return. Something like a 1st and a prospect....
Sep. 30, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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What if Toronto takes Bracco out of the trade?

Yotes have 0 need for Andersen and save 3.5 mil in real dollars trading Kuemper for a 'normal' Andersen return. Something like a 1st and a prospect....


Dude Bracco isn't worth that much, maybe like a 4th round pick at most, so taking him out of the trade is doing absolutely nothing. I would take everything out except Johnsson and get Anaheim to retain 50%. Otherwise there is no point giving up assets for Manson when we can sign someone who is better in free agency, do you see my point?
Oct. 1, 2020 at 6:35 a.m.
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tbh I don't know how to feel about that trade


"this is beeeeetle, im in the house, beeeetle, im in the house, beetlejuice is gettin his .... ......!"

Please do explain! Is it close enough you took a second to consider it? I love this roster a tooon and would love to see this happen. Be willing to pay a touch more I think.
Oct. 1, 2020 at 6:38 a.m.
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Quoting: themostleaf33
I can't even with these Manson trades anymore. Why are we giving up so much for someone when there are guys in free agency who are way better and who will have a lower cap hit. Demelo, Brodie, even Gudas are all guys I would take over Manson. So please stop. The leafs don't want him. If they did they would have had him by now, trust me.

Also for the last time the Yotes have absolutely 0 need for Andersen. Stop trading him there


So take Manson specifically out of it and plug in who you'd like to see. Just using him as a figurehead to demonstrate the kind of roster that could be had.

What in your opinion would need to be added to swing this deal for Darcy?

This is the best roster I've seen going into next year. Do you think its a cup contender?

thanks!
Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:20 a.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
That's not getting you Boqvist. Bird in hand rather then gamble with the 15th OA pick and Sandin, meaning Boqvist has already proven the kind of talent he brings and the significant upside.


Hey nowwwwww! Thanks for the input. What would need to be added for you to swap sandin for boqi?
Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:23 a.m.
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TOR is going to want to keep Sandin. Hawks want to keep Boqvist.


Goooooood mornin' Exo. I believe the leafs would trade Sandin for Boqi in a heartbeat. What in your opinion would be the package that would facilitate a Sandin for Boqi swap?
Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:40 a.m.
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Quoting: FedererSmooth
Goooooood mornin' Exo. I believe the leafs would trade Sandin for Boqi in a heartbeat. What in your opinion would be the package that would facilitate a Sandin for Boqi swap?


Well hello! The situation...as I see it...would mean Dubas would have to come calling. I don't envision Stan wanting to trade him away. He just turned 20, The #8 OA, and will VERY likely take over the #1 PP role for the Hawks this upcoming year. I am a Hawks fan, but I've always said Keith isn't a great PP QB. He's ok, but not great. Keith is a 5V5 player. Anyway, back to the trade. Since IMO Dubas is calling, you're going to have to trade that projected value because that's what he means to CHI. That's honestly what we (and most importantly Stan) feel about the kid. Top pair, PP QB, that's cost controlled for 5 more years.

Sandin is an excellent piece coming back. I don't want to dismiss that. BUT if the Hawks really wanted Sandin....guess what...they would have drafted him. Not with the #8, but with 27th pick. Just 2 slots ahead of where TOR drafted Sandin. Again, that doesn't mean he's bad. FAR from it. It just means CHI probably still really believes in the LD they got...Beaudin. Now, acquiring Sandin would put Beaudin further down the food chain...OR Sandin would be staying in Rockford vs getting to the NHL. This is why I don't think the trade will happen...Boqvist means too much to us and fits our system AND Sandin doesn't exactly help our overall development plan for prospects, but since you asked...This might indeed be the value of the trade I guess. the 2020 1st is really good and Sandin is good too. If I were Stan, I'd be asking for A LOT more, but settling for something close to this, maybe Woll too because Hawks need goalies prospects. IDK, I just don't think it's realistic.
Oct. 1, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
Well hello! The situation...as I see it...would mean Dubas would have to come calling. I don't envision Stan wanting to trade him away. He just turned 20, The #8 OA, and will VERY likely take over the #1 PP role for the Hawks this upcoming year. I am a Hawks fan, but I've always said Keith isn't a great PP QB. He's ok, but not great. Keith is a 5V5 player. Anyway, back to the trade. Since IMO Dubas is calling, you're going to have to trade that projected value because that's what he means to CHI. That's honestly what we (and most importantly Stan) feel about the kid. Top pair, PP QB, that's cost controlled for 5 more years.

Sandin is an excellent piece coming back. I don't want to dismiss that. BUT if the Hawks really wanted Sandin....guess what...they would have drafted him. Not with the #8, but with 27th pick. Just 2 slots ahead of where TOR drafted Sandin. Again, that doesn't mean he's bad. FAR from it. It just means CHI probably still really believes in the LD they got...Beaudin. Now, acquiring Sandin would put Beaudin further down the food chain...OR Sandin would be staying in Rockford vs getting to the NHL. This is why I don't think the trade will happen...Boqvist means too much to us and fits our system AND Sandin doesn't exactly help our overall development plan for prospects, but since you asked...This might indeed be the value of the trade I guess. the 2020 1st is really good and Sandin is good too. If I were Stan, I'd be asking for A LOT more, but settling for something close to this, maybe Woll too because Hawks need goalies prospects. IDK, I just don't think it's realistic.


Awesome, appreciate the in depth response good sir. I can see it being very hard to pry boqi away so I feel ya here. Those right side guys are just so valuable. Best of luck in the offseason for your Hawks!
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Oct. 1, 2020 at 11:18 a.m.
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Quoting: FedererSmooth
Hey nowwwwww! Thanks for the input. What would need to be added for you to swap sandin for boqi?


Hawks would have a very hard time moving Boqvist as he's a top prospect/rookie. You just don't trade away players like him who are compared to Karlsson before you know what you have on your hands. When was the last time you saw a top 10 draft pick traded at the age of 19? It's rare for a reason. If he plays a couple seasons and Hawks don't see him fitting with the team or system that is a different story.
Oct. 1, 2020 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: FedererSmooth
So take Manson specifically out of it and plug in who you'd like to see. Just using him as a figurehead to demonstrate the kind of roster that could be had.

What in your opinion would need to be added to swing this deal for Darcy?

This is the best roster I've seen going into next year. Do you think its a cup contender?

thanks!


Simple, take the picks out of the Manson trade and use them in the Kuemper trade. A 1st+2nd could be what it takes to get Kuemper. If it's the Pittsburgh pick it could be 1 for 1 but if It's a 2021 1st then I think you have to add a 2nd or a decent prospect
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