Tampa won’t take holl he’s expensive and a waste of cap

Try explaining why that trade makes sense for Boston.

If DeBrusk is asking for ~$5m in BOS, why would he settle for $3.75m in TOR?

They need right hand if they move him and they shed Paquettes salary. Paquette 1.65 + the expected Cernak cap hit is higher than that of Holl so they get a RHD and a first while shedding cap.

Well, probably because no one is going to give him 5 million. That’s not the right question though. The question is why does boston take a few pieces that don’t help them at all.

Wasn't aware he was looking for 5m. If he is that's an over pay on a bridge deal for him.

You're telling me they don't need a three C now
Edit that's right I forgot about Coyle.

Lol, no. Bergeron, Krejci, Coyle. Heardofem? They have to stuff Studnicka on the wing because they have too many centers.

Also, they wouldn’t trade debrusk for a 3C. They already traded donato for a 3C.

What if it was switch to Dermott liljegren and a 2nd?

I agree the trade is one-sided (that was already mentioned earlier in the thread ), but the question still works because that's the only reason BOS would really consider trading him in the first place - he's asking for too much $$. More likely that he goes to arbitration for a 1-2 year deal than signing a deal like this, at least based on the reports I've seen -- though that could always change. If you trade for a guy that needs a new contract -- both the trade and the new contract need to be realistic, so I was just questioning the latter.

No. the bruins are in win now mode. Any trade that does not make the bruins better has no value to the bruins.
Dermott stinks. Liljegren probably isn’t ready. A 2nd round pick does nothing for the Bruins this year.

Make an offer that makes the bruins better. No johnsson and crap picks. No mediocre defensemen and a pick. The bruins are not rebuilding.

I feel like if he goes to ARB that is probably the best he will get maybe 4m at max he's been on the same pace as most 2nd- 3rd line players coming out of elc

From reports I've seen, he is looking for $5m+ on a long-term deal. I don't think he's worth that, but I think BOS created this problem when they gave Charlie Coyle $5.25m over 6 years.

He’s not arbitration eligible.

If the bruins want to trade him it will be part of a trade for a good top four left D. That’s what they need to make their team better.

True, but that $4m x 1 is still better than this (in his eyes, I would think) as he'd likely get a raise in the next season as well, and he'd be one season closer to that long-term big money deal.

edit: welp looks like he's not arb eligible, so scratch that lol

UFA contract vs a guy coming off his ELC. No relation. No comparison.

For once I see alittle bit of biased in you. Kerfoot has slightly lower point than debrusk but playing a third line role, then also added liljegren who I think could step in this year. Dermott does not stink he is average. We just don't have the space.

Sure. But I'm just saying that he's probably looking at that deal and thinks he's a better player than Coyle, so he wants to at least have a comparable deal. I bet if Coyle was at $4m, that DeBrusk would be more likely to sign cheaper. Just an assumption by me, but I expected this situation would happen when Coyle signed. Maybe they're unrelated, but I think it plays a factor.

Sigh. Let’s take a good hard look at this.
What is the bruins objective? Well, they’re a year removed away from a cup final. They ran away with the presidents trophy last year. I think they’re trying to win a cup.
Do they have depth? Hell ya. Liljegren would probably be their 5th right side d. He’s a right shot, right?
Do average players (your words) improve their team? No. Average players make them worse. They’re good.
Do they really need Kerfoot? Well, he’s a center. Do they have a first line center? Bergeron. Second line center? Krejci. Third line center? Coyle. Fourth line center? None as good as Kerfoot, so there you have it, he would be their fourth center. Do they want to pay a fourth center that much? No.
Do the bruins desperately need draft picks? Nope.

You haven’t offered one thing they give a crap about, and you’re asking them to give up their fourth best scorer.

Coyle could have just gone to market. Debrusk only has the offer sheet as leverage. That’s how the NHL works.

The deal he proposed is absolutely perfect. It’s the trade that’s horrendous.

You seem to be forgetting kerfoot is also a LW

Not well. Let’s do the same test. Is Kerfoot better than Marchand? No. Debrusk? No. Bjork? Maybe. Maybe not. Do the bruins want to pay 3.5 million for that maybe? Absolutely not. Does losing debrusk to add Kerfoot at 3.5 million make the Bruins better? Absolutely not.

Got any players the bruins would have interest in? So far you haven’t named a single one.

But if you are moving debrusk in the same deal he is a replacement for 2lw and you add liljegren

Sooooo downgrade at LW, and get a guy that probably isn’t ready yet, and if he is ready would be the 4th RD?

What you’re trying to say is this makes the bruins worse.

The bruins aren’t going to do that. Maybe in a couple years when Bergeron and marchand start the decline, trades like that will be available. Not a real world concept now.